SCCT Rating List - Houdini 2.0z x64 6c

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2012-06-15 22:10

New Update:

More games have been added (played by Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c):
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/

Greetings,
Sedat

By Benno Hartwig Date 2012-06-16 08:23

[quote="Sedat Canbaz"]http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/[/quote]Fascinating!
30 ELO more than H2.0c
and about 100 ELO in front of all other Engines.
I'm curious whether other rating lists can confirm this.

Benno

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2012-06-16 09:39 Edited 2012-06-16 09:46

[quote="Benno Hartwig"]
[quote="Sedat Canbaz"]http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/[/quote]Fascinating!
30 ELO more than H2.0c
and about 100 ELO in front of all other Engines.
I'm curious whether other rating lists can confirm this.

Benno
[/quote]

In my opinion,its still too early for any conclusions
But anyway,I think after 1000 games will be more clear....

Yes...i wonder too about what will be Housdini 2.0z's Elo difference in other rating lists
Btw,probably Clemens will start testing Houdini 2.0z version

However,we can see similar or different results than SCCT

For example,has anybody noticed that Deep Shredder 12 performs approx.40 Elo less than Spike 1.4
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/

And its interesting to note that Shredder 12 engine performs better in other rating lists

In other words,any engine Elo performance is highly effecting from the below main factors:
-Hardware Speed
-Opening Book
-MP Engine Threads
-Permanent Brain
-Time Control
...

Best,
Sedat

By Timo Haupt Date 2012-06-16 11:29

[quote="Sedat Canbaz"]
[For example,has anybody noticed that Deep Shredder 12 performs approx.40 Elo less than Spike 1.4
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/

And its interesting to note that Shredder 12 engine performs better in other rating lists

In other words,any engine Elo performance is highly effecting from the below main factors:
-Hardware Speed
-Opening Book
-MP Engine Threads
-Permanent Brain
-Time Control
...

Best,
Sedat
[/quote]
Hi Sedat,

I think that Spike's better performance is a result of using 6 threads. I know the engine quite well because I made thousands of tests with it (even tested the MP implementation when it was created some years ago). Spike scales better than most engines on 4-8 threads so this is an explanation for performing better than Deep Shredder 12 in your list.

Best regards
Timo

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2012-06-16 12:07 Edited 2012-06-16 12:16

[quote="Timo Haupt"]
[quote="Sedat Canbaz"]
[For example,has anybody noticed that Deep Shredder 12 performs approx.40 Elo less than Spike 1.4
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/

And its interesting to note that Shredder 12 engine performs better in other rating lists

In other words,any engine Elo performance is highly effecting from the below main factors:
-Hardware Speed
-Opening Book
-MP Engine Threads
-Permanent Brain
-Time Control
...

Best,
Sedat
[/quote]
Hi Sedat,

I think that Spike's better performance is a result of using 6 threads. I know the engine quite well because I made thousands of tests with it (even tested the MP implementation when it was created some years ago). Spike scales better than most engines on 4-8 threads so this is an explanation for performing better than Deep Shredder 12 in your list.

Best regards
Timo
[/quote]

Hello dear Timo,

You can be right,but however i think that Deep Shredder 12 does not perform very good with 6 cores (under these conditions)
Of course, I can be wrong, in other words: more games will tell the true

Btw,here we see really strange results,e.g Deep Shredder 12 x64 6c performed better than Spike 1.4 6c:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232-top-20/

And here we see just opposite,i mean Spike 1.4 6c performed better:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232/

It seems,Deep Shredder 12 has no stable results (on my conditions)
For Example,(in my ratings) Naum,Rybka,Critter,Houdini...results are almost similar as other ratings

Regards,
Sedat

By Stefan Pohl Date 2012-06-17 08:24

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2012-06-18 00:06

[quote="Stefan Pohl"]
[quote="Benno Hartwig"]
[quote="Sedat Canbaz"]http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/[/quote]Fascinating!
30 ELO more than H2.0c
and about 100 ELO in front of all other Engines.
I'm curious whether other rating lists can confirm this.

Benno
[/quote]

Hi,

when the Critter 1.6 Gauntlet for the TEB-rankinglist is finished (19.6.), I will try this setting in my LightSpeed-rankinglist (same conditions as TEB, but 1/3 thinking time (20''+250ms)). Results 20.6. here (hopefully).

Best - Stefan
[/quote]

Hallo Stefan,

It sounds good...no patience to see your results and Clemens results too

Best,
Sedat