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- - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-14 13:40
Dear Chess Friends,

As I mentioned before,
I started a new competition, based on Top 5 engines !

Note also that,
There is a possibility to include more participants....

And here are the current standings

SCCT (MP, Ponder ON, 60m +15s)- Gladiators:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1168

New Updates Coming Soon !)

Have Fun,
Sedat
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-16 12:45 Upvotes 1
New Update

Komodo 1318 is the current Leader - Congrats to Komodo team !

SCCT Gladiators 2014 - Standings after 116 games:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1168

Note: I included the 12 games, played at 40/120 as 1 core at the current standings!
Because I think that the quality and the strength of those 12 games are similar!

Greetings,
Sedat
Parent - By Tom Paul Date 2014-11-16 17:29
Und genau deshalb halte ich Komodo immer noch für den Favoriten im Finale.
Und erst recht im direkten Zweikampf.
Bei Stockfish müssten jetzt ganz viele Patches am besten ohne Pausen kommen, ganz egal wie schlecht die Ideen sein mögen, schließlich braucht Stockfish ~+20 ELO und auch Komodo wird bis zum Finale fleißig weiter entwickelt also eher +30 ELO.
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-18 11:31
Another Update

Komodo still leads...!!
Stockfish is very close to 1st place..!
Houdini is currently 3rd (as I expected)

SCCT Gladiators 2014 - Standings after 153 games:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1168

Btw,
No any comments (exception Sekos) about my new tournament picture ?!
I've spent many time and efforts during working over it...))
So I wonder, which signs/parts of the picture did you like much ?)

Best,
Sedat
Parent - By Tom Paul Date 2014-11-18 14:36
Mit steigender Anzahl der Partien, steigt auch der Abstand nach Punkten zwischen Komodo und Stockfish.
Und mit mehr Bedenkzeit (TCEC) wird der Abstand noch größer und mit mehr Kernen wird der Abstand noch größer.
Stage 3 ist schon zu 1/3 vorüber und bei Stockfish gab es immer noch keinen ELO Zuwachs.
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-20 13:30
New Update

As before, Komodo 1318 MP still leads the tournament...!!!
Stockfish is currently second, but what about after 100 games ?!)
Really I am not sure which of the both Top players will win...
Note that I plan to include Chiron 2 MP as next participant!

SCCT Gladiators 2014 - Standings after 200 games:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1168

Best,
Sedat
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-22 09:12
Hello Friends,

Here are the first results played by Chiron 2 MP:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1168

To be honest,
I am quite satisfied by the current performance of Chiron, even above than Rybka !
It looks like, Chiron is doing very good under these conditions...above than expected...

Note also that,
So far Chiron has 2 wins / 13 loses / 25 draws

Btw,
Here are the both games (won by Chiron)
And I don't think that the current played openings are weak/reason...)!



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Event:
Ort:
Datum:

Weiss:
Schwarz:

Ergebnis
Board


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[Event "SCCT - Gladiators "]
[Site "Antalya/Turkey"]
[Date "2014.11.21"]
[Round "4.2"]
[White "Rybka 4.1 MP"]
[Black "Chiron 2 MP"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B19"]
[Annotator ",pc10"]
[PlyCount "118"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]
[Source "Sedat Canbaz"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 980 @ 3.33GHz 3337 MHz W=22.1 plies; 359kN/ s; 3.679
TBAs; Perfect2015.ctg B=32.6 plies; 3.749kN/s; 57.775 TBAs; Perfect2015.ctg} 1.
e4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nc3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. d4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} dxe4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nxe4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bf5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Ng3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bg6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. h4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Nf3 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. h5 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bh7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Bd3 {
[%eval 12,21] [%emt 0:02:32]} Bxd3 {[%eval 14,28] [%emt 0:06:44]} 10. Qxd3 {
[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qc7 {(e6) [%eval 16,30] [%emt 0:04:47]} 11. Bd2 {
(Ne4) [%eval 12,21] [%emt 0:03:42]} e6 {[%eval 16,28] [%emt 0:03:06]} 12. O-O-O
{[%eval 13,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {[%eval 14,28] [%emt 0:02:56]} 13. Kb1 {
(Ne4) [%eval 16,21] [%emt 0:01:22]} Ngf6 {[%eval 12,27] [%emt 0:02:02]} 14.
Rhe1 {(Ne4) [%eval 16,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rd8 {(a6) [%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:02:08]
} 15. Nh4 {(Qe2) [%eval 13,19] [%emt 0:03:12]} O-O {[%eval 5,27] [%emt 0:01:59]
} 16. Nhf5 {[%eval 18,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bd6 {[%eval 7,29] [%emt 0:01:24]} 17.
Nxh6+ {(Nxd6) [%eval 18,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} gxh6 {
(Kh8) [%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:01:23]} 18. Bxh6 {[%eval 15,20] [%emt 0:03:35]} Rfe8
{[%eval -30,30] [%emt 0:03:44]} 19. Qf3 {[%eval 13,20] [%emt 0:00:39]} Kh8 {
[%eval -27,29] [%emt 0:04:23]} 20. c4 {(Bd2) [%eval 13,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {
(Qa5) [%eval -7,28] [%emt 0:09:04]} 21. c5 {(Bg5) [%eval 3,19] [%emt 0:06:22]}
Bxg3 {[%eval -53,25] [%emt 0:00:36]} 22. Bg5 {
(fxg3) [%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:01:10]} Nd5 {[%eval -74,28] [%emt 0:00:46]} 23.
Bxd8 {[%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:01:40]} Qf4 {(Rxd8) [%eval -69,31] [%emt 0:00:00]}
24. fxg3 {[%eval 26,22] [%emt 0:05:47]} Qxf3 {[%eval -77,33] [%emt 0:00:00]}
25. gxf3 {[%eval 26,23] [%emt 0:01:46]} Rxd8 {[%eval -77,32] [%emt 0:00:00]}
26. a3 {(Kc2) [%eval 26,24] [%emt 0:02:48]} N7f6 {
(Kg7) [%eval -89,30] [%emt 0:00:46]} 27. Re5 {[%eval 13,23] [%emt 0:03:27]} Kh7
{(Kg7) [%eval -95,33] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Kc2 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:06:33]} a5
{[%eval -95,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 29. Kd2 {(b3) [%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:01:10]} Ne7
{(Nd7) [%eval -140,36] [%emt 0:01:13]} 30. Ke1 {[%eval -20,23] [%emt 0:02:06]}
Nf5 {[%eval -151,38] [%emt 0:00:13]} 31. g4 {[%eval -17,24] [%emt 0:00:59]}
Nxd4 {[%eval -127,39] [%emt 0:00:01]} 32. Rd3 {[%eval -17,26] [%emt 0:01:53]}
Rd7 {(a4) [%eval -136,38] [%emt 0:00:41]} 33. Kf1 {
[%eval -11,25] [%emt 0:01:14]} Nf5 {(Kg7) [%eval -118,38] [%emt 0:01:49]} 34.
Rxd7 {[%eval -29,22] [%emt 0:02:09]} Nxd7 {[%eval -102,38] [%emt 0:01:19]} 35.
Re1 {[%eval -29,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne7 {[%eval -101,38] [%emt 0:02:45]} 36.
Rc1 {(Kg1) [%eval -29,24] [%emt 0:00:34]} Ne5 {[%eval -167,31] [%emt 0:00:51]}
37. Kg2 {[%eval -44,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd3 {[%eval -145,35] [%emt 0:00:50]}
38. Rb1 {[%eval -49,25] [%emt 0:00:37]} Nxc5 {
(Nd5) [%eval -164,36] [%emt 0:00:34]} 39. Kg3 {[%eval -66,23] [%emt 0:01:20]}
Nb3 {[%eval -131,37] [%emt 0:00:19]} 40. Rd1 {[%eval -66,24] [%emt 0:00:20]}
Nd5 {[%eval -131,38] [%emt 0:00:44]} 41. f4 {[%eval -66,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} a4
{[%eval -164,35] [%emt 0:00:45]} 42. g5 {[%eval -66,23] [%emt 0:00:25]} Na5 {
[%eval -164,35] [%emt 0:00:39]} 43. Kf3 {(Re1) [%eval -80,22] [%emt 0:00:21]}
Nc4 {[%eval -175,33] [%emt 0:00:51]} 44. Rc1 {[%eval -81,24] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Nd2+ {[%eval -175,32] [%emt 0:00:56]} 45. Kg3 {[%eval -96,25] [%emt 0:00:00]}
c5 {[%eval -195,34] [%emt 0:00:53]} 46. Re1 {[%eval -96,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg7
{(Nc4) [%eval -190,33] [%emt 0:00:48]} 47. Rd1 {
(Ra1) [%eval -115,21] [%emt 0:01:10]} Ne3 {[%eval -190,34] [%emt 0:01:47]} 48.
Rc1 {[%eval -131,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf5+ {[%eval -229,33] [%emt 0:02:06]} 49.
Kg4 {[%eval -131,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc4 {[%eval -234,33] [%emt 0:01:02]} 50.
Kf3 {[%eval -131,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kh7 {(Nfd6) [%eval -234,33] [%emt 0:00:29]
} 51. h6 {(Kg4) [%eval -217,19] [%emt 0:01:17]} Nfd6 {
[%eval -293,31] [%emt 0:00:20]} 52. Rd1 {(Kg4) [%eval -217,19] [%emt 0:00:25]}
b4 {[%eval -340,31] [%emt 0:00:18]} 53. Rd3 {[%eval -325,19] [%emt 0:00:41]} b3
{(Nf5) [%eval -400,34] [%emt 0:00:00]} 54. Ke2 {
(Kg4) [%eval -401,19] [%emt 0:01:02]} Nf5 {[%eval -530,33] [%emt 0:00:29]} 55.
Rd7 {[%eval -401,20] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kg6 {[%eval -606,33] [%emt 0:00:22]} 56.
h7 {(Kd3) [%eval -458,21] [%emt 0:01:04]} Kxh7 {[%eval -806,31] [%emt 0:00:25]}
57. Kd3 {[%eval -458,20] [%emt 0:00:10]} Nxb2+ {[%eval -889,31] [%emt 0:00:18]}
58. Kc3 {[%eval -706,20] [%emt 0:00:17]} Nc4 {[%eval -1005,29] [%emt 0:00:11]}
59. Rxf7+ {[%eval -706,21] [%emt 0:00:23]} Kg6 {
(Kg8) [%eval -1055,31] [%emt 0:00:02]} 0-1
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-25 01:28


Dear Chess Friends,

There was a BIG fight for the first place and the winner is Komodo !!
Impressive performance by Komodo 1318 - Congrats to Komodo Team !

Another record is that,
For the 1st time Komodo wins the SCCT tournament !)

This time unfortunately,
Stockfish 091114 MP is performed as 2nd

For example,
Since 2014, Stockfish won almost all SCCT tournaments, exception this one...
Yes...it looks like Stockfish was not lucky under these conditions

About Houdini, Gull and Rybka performance,
As I expected...without updates they can not be better....

About Chiron 6th ranking,
Good, much better than Blitz and its performance is near to Rybka
Chiron has one game lost on time, otherwise probably would be rated higher

Btw,
I replayed 2 short (up to 15 moves) drawn games

More details/statistics about the current competition:

Games        :    300 (finished)

White Wins   :     84 (28.0 %)
Black Wins   :     38 (12.7 %)
Draws        :    178 (59.3 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 57.7 %
Black Perf.  : 42.3 %

ECO A =     12 Games ( 4.0 %)
ECO B =    115 Games (38.3 %)
ECO C =     92 Games (30.7 %)
ECO D =     61 Games (20.3 %)
ECO E =     20 Games ( 6.7 %)

Tournament Start Date:         10.11.2014
Tournament Complete Date:      24.11.2014
Total Games Played:            300
Average Games Per Day:         21

Average Moves Length Per Game: 67

Also I am very impressed by the of the below game statistics:
Fastest Win: Houdini 4 MP vs Rybka 4.1 MP 1-0 (in 31 moves)
Longest Win: Houdini 4 MP vs Komodo 1318 MP 0-1 (in 141 moves)

Note also that,
There is a possibility to resume the current tourney, maybe in 2015 !)

Thanks for your interest...

Best,
Sedat
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-25 09:14
And here are the standings - 100 games per player:
.


Games:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/games/SCCT_Gladiators_2014.rar
Parent - - By Tom Paul Date 2014-11-25 09:26
Je mehr Kerne und mehr Bedenkzeit, desto besser spielt Komodo gegen/als Stockfish.
Parent - - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2014-11-25 13:26
Tom Paul schrieb:

Je mehr Kerne und mehr Bedenkzeit, desto besser spielt Komodo gegen/als Stockfish.


Agreed...

But when I say agree, if we are talking for adding more time...
SCCT  (24 Hours per game) or WSET (1200M+1M) are examples about the current issue... ))!!

And in my opinion,
It is safe... if we test the engines up to 6 or 8 cores

For example,
Overall MP engines suffer with 12 core + more cores...
I mean such testings are not identical in speed...
And with 12 cores or more + we can not determine which one is stronger...
In shortly: mostly of the mp engines are not ready... and it looks like it will take some period of time for proper testings...

Note also it is worse, if test the engines with:
- Fast time controls
- 1 core or with 12 core and above...
- Ponder OFF
- Weak openings
- Live tools on same PC
- Multiply matches on same PC
etc...

In other words,
I can not see any better competition than SCCT )!

Hopes helps

Best,
Sedat
Parent - By Sedat Canbaz Date 2015-02-23 13:22
Hello Chess Friends,

I am pleased to announce:
-I resumed my previous SCCT (60m+15s) Gladiators 2014

So this time I decided to include new participants:
Fire 4 MP
Hannibal 1.5 MP
Stockfish 6 MP
Texel 1.05 MP

And after BIG battles,
Stockfish 6 is the new Leader - My Congratulations to Stockfish team !
Note that the previous leader was Komodo 1318, so this time Stockfish 6 managed to take the revenge !)

SCCT (60m +15s) Gladiators 2015's full standings:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1675

Best,
Sedat
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