K8-SF 40Z/120

By Clemens Keck Date 2014-09-30 19:19

Partie 1, klasse Spiel von Stockfish in der Abtauschvariante Spanische Partie:

[Event "40 Moves in 120 min; Rest in 60 min"] [Site "k8-long, TEST-PC"] [Date "2014.09.27"] [Round "6.1"] [White "Stockfish 230914 64 SSE4.2 x1"] [Black "Komodo 8 64-bit x12"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "C85"] [PlyCount "109"] [EventDate "2014.??.??"]  1. e4 {book 0s} e5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s} 3. Bb5 {book 0s} a6 {book 0s} 4. Ba4 {book 0s} Be7 {book 0s} 5. O-O {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 6. Bxc6 {+0.13/34 4:04m} dxc6 {+0.13/25 1:33m} 7. d3 {+0.08/35 2:48m} Bd6 { +0.11/27 3:19m} 8. Nbd2 {+0.08/34 1:35m} Be6 {+0.08/26 1:17m} 9. Nb3 { +0.08/33 1:37m (b3)} Qe7 {0.00/26 1:44m (O-O)} 10. Na5 {+0.05/34 5:04m (Bd2)} O-O-O {+0.08/26 2:20m (Rb8)} 11. a3 {+0.11/29 2:32m} Nd7 {0.00/27 5:11m (Qe8)} 12. b4 {+0.19/29 2:45m} f6 {+0.09/27 3:18m} 13. c4 {+0.30/34 2:39m} Qe8 { +0.16/26 2:25m} 14. Qc2 {+0.36/33 2:55m} Nf8 {+0.21/27 6:13m (Qg6)} 15. Be3 { +0.79/31 2:28m} Bg4 {+0.18/27 3:50m} 16. Nd2 {+0.78/35 3:51m} Be7 { +0.17/27 2:08m (Be2)} 17. f3 {+0.77/35 3:03m} Bh5 {+0.28/27 3:03m} 18. Rfd1 { +0.89/35 1:45m (c5)} Ne6 {+0.74/26 10:58m (Bf7)} 19. c5 {+0.81/34 4:10m} Qd7 { +0.97/24 4:09m (Bf7)} 20. Ndb3 {+1.34/35 3:16m} Ng5 {+1.19/26 4:38m} 21. Bxg5 { +1.10/37 3:41m} fxg5 {+1.23/27 1:04m} 22. d4 {+1.21/38 3:09m} exd4 { +1.22/29 2:59m (g4)} 23. Nxd4 {+2.03/39 2:34m} Qxd4+ {+1.74/28 2:46m} 24. Rxd4 {+2.64/40 13:04m} Rxd4 {+2.15/29 3:20m} 25. a4 {+2.64/40 1:36m} Kb8 { +2.30/31 9:02m} 26. b5 {+2.72/41 3:30m} axb5 {+2.36/31 2:08m (cxb5)} 27. axb5 { +2.82/42 4:49m} cxb5 {+3.15/32 8:04m} 28. Kf1 {+2.98/43 6:04m (c6)} Rhd8 { +2.16/30 2:17m} 29. Qb3 {+3.04/45 4:39m} Bxc5 {+2.28/31 1:42m} 30. Qxb5 { +3.04/45 1:25m} Bb6 {+2.41/32 1:57m} 31. Nc4 {+3.10/43 1:29m} Be8 { +2.52/32 1:50m} 32. Qxg5 {+3.23/42 2:12m} Ba7 {+2.57/33 1:33m} 33. Ke1 { +3.29/42 1:37m} b5 {+2.59/33 3:42m} 34. Qe7 {+3.25/41 2:22m} R4d7 { +2.89/31 7:05m} 35. Qa3 {+3.54/41 1:49m (Qe5)} c6 {+1.80/29 36s} 36. Ne5 { +3.59/42 3:50m} Rb7 {+2.21/29 1:27m} 37. Rd1 {+3.59/42 2:02m} Rxd1+ { +2.46/30 2:21m} 38. Kxd1 {+3.81/42 8:04m} c5 {+2.50/31 1:44m (Rc7)} 39. Qd3 { +3.96/39 3:49m} Kc8 {+2.61/30 1:53m} 40. Qd5 {+4.01/39 1:48m (Qd6)} Rc7 { +2.73/29 52s} 41. Qg8 {+4.16/38 1:34m (Qe6+)} Kd8 {+2.67/26 50s} 42. Qxh7 { +4.16/40 1:05m} c4 {+2.86/28 2:00m} 43. Qg8 {+4.22/39 1:04m} Bc5 { +3.05/28 1:50m (Bg1)} 44. Kc2 {+4.36/38 1:26m} Bd6 {+3.24/28 1:47m} 45. h3 { +4.43/39 1:02m (Qe6)} Bxe5 {+3.24/27 2:20m} 46. Qd5+ {+5.03/38 2:58m} Bd7 { +3.38/28 1:00m (Bd6)} 47. Qxe5 {+5.98/40 5:13m} Be8 {+3.56/28 1:28m} 48. Qd6+ { +5.81/40 2:02m (Qd4+)} Rd7 {+3.71/32 4:07m} 49. Qc5 {+5.93/40 49s (Qa3)} Rb7 { +3.78/29 1:25m} 50. e5 {+6.10/44 2:17m (Qd5+)} b4 {+3.79/28 52s (Rc7)} 51. e6 { +7.39/42 1:43m} b3+ {+4.69/30 1:58m (Bg6+)} 52. Kb2 {+8.01/46 2:20m} Rc7 { +4.82/29 59s} 53. Qd6+ {+9.77/47 5:58m} Kc8 {+5.44/29 1:04m} 54. Kc3 { +9.98/49 35s} Rb7 {+5.64/30 2:05m} 55. e7 {+11.87/45 51s} 1-0

Event:

Ort:

Datum:

Weiss:

Schwarz:

Ergebnis

Board

[Event "40 Moves in 120 min; Rest in 60 min"]
[Site "k8-long, TEST-PC"]
[Date "2014.09.27"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Stockfish 230914 64 SSE4.2 x1"]
[Black "Komodo 8 64-bit x12"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C85"]
[PlyCount "109"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]

1. e4 {book 0s} e5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s} 3. Bb5 {book 0s} a6
{book 0s} 4. Ba4 {book 0s} Be7 {book 0s} 5. O-O {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 6. Bxc6
{+0.13/34 4:04m} dxc6 {+0.13/25 1:33m} 7. d3 {+0.08/35 2:48m} Bd6 {
+0.11/27 3:19m} 8. Nbd2 {+0.08/34 1:35m} Be6 {+0.08/26 1:17m} 9. Nb3 {
+0.08/33 1:37m (b3)} Qe7 {0.00/26 1:44m (O-O)} 10. Na5 {+0.05/34 5:04m (Bd2)}
O-O-O {+0.08/26 2:20m (Rb8)} 11. a3 {+0.11/29 2:32m} Nd7 {0.00/27 5:11m (Qe8)}
12. b4 {+0.19/29 2:45m} f6 {+0.09/27 3:18m} 13. c4 {+0.30/34 2:39m} Qe8 {
+0.16/26 2:25m} 14. Qc2 {+0.36/33 2:55m} Nf8 {+0.21/27 6:13m (Qg6)} 15. Be3 {
+0.79/31 2:28m} Bg4 {+0.18/27 3:50m} 16. Nd2 {+0.78/35 3:51m} Be7 {
+0.17/27 2:08m (Be2)} 17. f3 {+0.77/35 3:03m} Bh5 {+0.28/27 3:03m} 18. Rfd1 {
+0.89/35 1:45m (c5)} Ne6 {+0.74/26 10:58m (Bf7)} 19. c5 {+0.81/34 4:10m} Qd7 {
+0.97/24 4:09m (Bf7)} 20. Ndb3 {+1.34/35 3:16m} Ng5 {+1.19/26 4:38m} 21. Bxg5 {
+1.10/37 3:41m} fxg5 {+1.23/27 1:04m} 22. d4 {+1.21/38 3:09m} exd4 {
+1.22/29 2:59m (g4)} 23. Nxd4 {+2.03/39 2:34m} Qxd4+ {+1.74/28 2:46m} 24. Rxd4
{+2.64/40 13:04m} Rxd4 {+2.15/29 3:20m} 25. a4 {+2.64/40 1:36m} Kb8 {
+2.30/31 9:02m} 26. b5 {+2.72/41 3:30m} axb5 {+2.36/31 2:08m (cxb5)} 27. axb5 {
+2.82/42 4:49m} cxb5 {+3.15/32 8:04m} 28. Kf1 {+2.98/43 6:04m (c6)} Rhd8 {
+2.16/30 2:17m} 29. Qb3 {+3.04/45 4:39m} Bxc5 {+2.28/31 1:42m} 30. Qxb5 {
+3.04/45 1:25m} Bb6 {+2.41/32 1:57m} 31. Nc4 {+3.10/43 1:29m} Be8 {
+2.52/32 1:50m} 32. Qxg5 {+3.23/42 2:12m} Ba7 {+2.57/33 1:33m} 33. Ke1 {
+3.29/42 1:37m} b5 {+2.59/33 3:42m} 34. Qe7 {+3.25/41 2:22m} R4d7 {
+2.89/31 7:05m} 35. Qa3 {+3.54/41 1:49m (Qe5)} c6 {+1.80/29 36s} 36. Ne5 {
+3.59/42 3:50m} Rb7 {+2.21/29 1:27m} 37. Rd1 {+3.59/42 2:02m} Rxd1+ {
+2.46/30 2:21m} 38. Kxd1 {+3.81/42 8:04m} c5 {+2.50/31 1:44m (Rc7)} 39. Qd3 {
+3.96/39 3:49m} Kc8 {+2.61/30 1:53m} 40. Qd5 {+4.01/39 1:48m (Qd6)} Rc7 {
+2.73/29 52s} 41. Qg8 {+4.16/38 1:34m (Qe6+)} Kd8 {+2.67/26 50s} 42. Qxh7 {
+4.16/40 1:05m} c4 {+2.86/28 2:00m} 43. Qg8 {+4.22/39 1:04m} Bc5 {
+3.05/28 1:50m (Bg1)} 44. Kc2 {+4.36/38 1:26m} Bd6 {+3.24/28 1:47m} 45. h3 {
+4.43/39 1:02m (Qe6)} Bxe5 {+3.24/27 2:20m} 46. Qd5+ {+5.03/38 2:58m} Bd7 {
+3.38/28 1:00m (Bd6)} 47. Qxe5 {+5.98/40 5:13m} Be8 {+3.56/28 1:28m} 48. Qd6+ {
+5.81/40 2:02m (Qd4+)} Rd7 {+3.71/32 4:07m} 49. Qc5 {+5.93/40 49s (Qa3)} Rb7 {
+3.78/29 1:25m} 50. e5 {+6.10/44 2:17m (Qd5+)} b4 {+3.79/28 52s (Rc7)} 51. e6 {
+7.39/42 1:43m} b3+ {+4.69/30 1:58m (Bg6+)} 52. Kb2 {+8.01/46 2:20m} Rc7 {
+4.82/29 59s} 53. Qd6+ {+9.77/47 5:58m} Kc8 {+5.44/29 1:04m} 54. Kc3 {
+9.98/49 35s} Rb7 {+5.64/30 2:05m} 55. e7 {+11.87/45 51s} 1-0

By Clemens Keck Date 2014-09-30 19:27

Partie 2 klasse gespielt von Komodo! Nur 2 Buchzüge!
leider lässt mich die Forumssoftware kein Brett mehr darstellen?

[Event "40 Moves in 120 min; Rest in 60 min"]
[Site "k8-long, TEST-PC"]
[Date "2014.09.30"]
[Round "45.1"]
[White "Komodo 8 64-bit x12"]
[Black "Stockfish 230914 64 SSE4.2 x1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A45"]
[PlyCount "99"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]

1. d4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 2. Bg5 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s} 3. e4 {
+0.11/26 5:30m} c5 {+0.08/32 3:12m (h6)} 4. d5 {+0.24/28 8:10m} d6 {
+0.20/33 4:43m} 5. Bb5+ {+0.24/28 5:04m} Nbd7 {+0.23/35 3:37m} 6. dxe6 {
+0.28/28 2:17m} fxe6 {+0.13/35 1:26m} 7. Nf3 {+0.31/28 2:48m} a6 {
+0.10/34 10:06m (Be7)} 8. Bd3 {+0.36/28 4:56m} Be7 {+0.23/34 5:28m} 9. O-O {
+0.31/26 3:12m (a4)} O-O {+0.24/33 2:47m} 10. a4 {+0.33/27 2:27m} Ng4 {
+0.25/34 1:22m} 11. Bxe7 {+0.30/26 1:28m} Qxe7 {+0.31/34 2:38m} 12. Na3 {
+0.38/27 7:06m} b6 {+0.29/33 2:09m} 13. Qd2 {+0.52/25 3:00m (Qe2)} Bb7 {
+0.50/34 2:39m} 14. Qg5 {+0.55/25 1:35m} Ndf6 {+0.45/35 6:31m (Ngf6)} 15. Qh4 {
+0.62/26 6:29m} e5 {+0.39/35 1:20m} 16. Rfe1 {+0.55/26 2:15m (b3)} Bc6 {
+0.46/34 1:50m (Nh6)} 17. b3 {+0.49/29 4:46m} Nh6 {+0.34/34 1:24m} 18. Ng5 {
+0.36/28 5:16m} Rab8 {+0.41/33 3:06m} 19. Bc4+ {+0.38/28 6:27m (Nb1)} Kh8 {
+0.27/38 2:55m} 20. f3 {+0.27/29 4:11m} b5 {+0.28/38 2:09m} 21. axb5 {
+0.37/27 1:22m} axb5 {+0.36/40 2:05m} 22. Be6 {+0.32/29 1:26m} Nfg8 {
+0.36/39 1:30m (Nhg8)} 23. c4 {+0.35/30 2:55m} Rf6 {+0.41/38 3:01m} 24. Bf5 {
+0.47/31 5:48m} g6 {+0.16/38 4:07m} 25. Bh3 {+0.46/28 39s} Rf4 {+0.17/40 2:11m}
26. g4 {+0.53/27 29s (Qg3)} bxc4 {+0.52/36 2:26m} 27. Nxc4 {+0.59/27 1:25m}
Rxb3 {+0.79/38 5:12m} 28. Na5 {+0.56/29 1:11m} Rbxf3 {+0.73/37 1:30m (Rb6)} 29.
Nxf3 {+0.82/27 45s} Rxf3 {+0.89/40 2:19m} 30. Qxe7 {+0.78/28 40s} Nxe7 {
+0.93/42 3:35m} 31. Bg2 {+1.01/29 2:23m} Rf8 {+0.93/42 4:13m} 32. g5 {
+1.08/28 43s} Nf7 {+0.93/43 1:31m} 33. h4 {+1.12/27 1:07m} Kg7 {+0.93/42 3:10m}
34. Reb1 {+1.04/32 2:13m} Ra8 {+0.93/44 2:57m} 35. Nxc6 {+1.07/32 1:00m (Nc4)}
Rxa1 {+1.40/47 2:12m} 36. Rxa1 {+1.05/34 1:02m} Nxc6 {+1.59/48 2:45m} 37. Bf1 {
+1.13/35 3:17m} h6 {+1.59/48 2:54m} 38. Ra6 {+1.21/35 1:38m} Ncd8 {
+1.85/50 6:29m} 39. gxh6+ {+1.36/35 56s} Kxh6 {+1.88/52 1:30m} 40. Bc4 {
+1.41/35 1:16m} Kh7 {+1.94/52 3:25m (Kg7)} 41. Kf2 {+1.47/34 55s (Ra2)} Kg7 {
+2.22/48 1:31m} 42. Ra3 {+1.53/33 46s} Kf6 {+2.75/51 5:04m} 43. Rg3 {
+1.62/32 1:01m (Rf3+)} Nh8 {+2.77/50 1:34m} 44. Rf3+ {+1.73/34 1:21m (Ke3)} Ke7
{+3.03/53 1:26m (Kg7)} 45. Ke2 {+1.92/32 40s (Ke3)} Nhf7 {+3.03/53 57s} 46. Rg3
{+2.39/31 49s} Kf6 {+3.09/56 3:18m} 47. Bd5 {+2.72/31 55s} Nh6 {
+3.41/56 2:17m (Nh8)} 48. Kd3 {+3.20/28 45s (Kd2)} Nhf7 {+7.66/48 1:55m} 49.
Kc4 {+3.81/33 47s} Nh8 {+12.92/52 2:00m} 50. Rf3+ {+4.53/34 1:03m} 1-0

By Tom Paul Date 2014-09-30 19:31

Partie als PGN einfügen und dann später auf Antworten klicken oder auf Zitieren.

By Kurt Utzinger Date 2014-10-01 13:51

Danke Clemens für dieses hochkarätige Match. Stellst Du anschliessend
die Games als PGN zur Verfügung?
Mfg
Kurt

By Benno Hartwig Date 2014-10-01 13:57

> Und am Ende weis man mal wieder nix genaues

Immerhin, dass diese beiden Engines ziemlich dicht beieinander liegen, wissen wir nun immer 'genauer'.

Aber ob nicht doch bei diesen Gegebenheiten tatsächlich eine 25:21-Überlegenheit einer Engine Tatsache ist, bekommen wir so nicht heraus.
Und das hätten wir auch nicht wirklich, wenn du tatsächlich ein 25,0 zu 21,0 vermeldet hättest.
Trotzdem schön, mal von solchen Ergebnissen bei langen Zeiten zu lesen. Thanx

Benno

By Andreas Aicher Date 2014-10-01 17:52

also ich finde es gut, dass wir zwei Engines haben, die so eng zusammenliegen, dass man von einer Nummer eins nicht wirklich sprechen kann, hinzu kommt, dass die beiden Engines sich bei Schachanalysen sehr gut ergänzen.
Wer jetzt die "wahre" Nummer eins ist, ist doch wirklich nicht so wichtig, ich bin da vollkommen neutral.

Andreas

By Rüdiger Hartmann Date 2014-10-01 18:23

Hallo Andreas,

...insgesamt kann ich, nach meinen Ergebnissen und Einschätzungen, doch sagen, daß Komodo 8 bei etwas längeren
Bedenkzeiten und mehr Rechnerleistung (mindesten 4 Kerne) derzeit die Nr. 1 im Computerschach ist.

Allerdings schätze ich natürlich auch die außergewöhnliche Blitzschach-Stärke der Stockfishes und Houdini 4 wird von mir natürlich noch
lange nicht vergessen.

Jedoch verfügt das Team von Komodo 8 über Jahrzehnte lange Erfahrung in der Schachprogrammierung, glaub´mir,
positionell ist gegen Komodo 8 z.Zt. "kein Kraut gewachsen".

By Andreas Aicher Date 2014-10-01 23:00

das deckt sich mit meinen Erkenntnissen, die ich beim Analysieren von Schachpartien gewonnen habe.
Komodo ist positionell sehr stark, Stockfish taktisch sehr stark, die beiden ergänzen sich perfekt.
Zu Houdini kann ich nichts sagen, da es keine Mac Version gibt, worüber ich auch nicht sehr unglücklich bin, besonders sympatisch war mir diese Engine nie, mir ist da die Verwandtschaft mit den Ippos denn doch zu nah.

Andreas