SCCT Auto232 Rating List (Sept 13 2011)

By Ernest Bonnem Date 2011-09-13 19:10

* SCCT Auto232 Rating List:

Very nice, Sedat!

Is it possible to see the scores of the Houdini 2.0 individual matches?

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2011-09-14 11:17

[quote="Ernest Bonnem"]
* SCCT Auto232 Rating List:

Very nice, Sedat!

Is it possible to see the scores of the Houdini 2.0 individual matches?
[/quote]

Dear Ernest,

Here it is:

Individual statistics:

1 Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c    : 3362  430 (+173,=200,- 57), 63.5 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         : 100 (+ 37,= 51,- 12), 62.5 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           : 130 (+ 37,= 65,- 28), 53.5 %
Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c           :  90 (+ 35,= 49,-  6), 66.1 %
Komodo 3.0 x64                : 110 (+ 64,= 35,- 11), 74.1 %

2 Houdini 1.5a x64 4c       : 3341  790 (+300,=385,-105), 62.3 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  50 (+ 16,= 23,- 11), 55.0 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  50 (+ 13,= 31,-  6), 57.0 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         :  50 (+ 16,= 29,-  5), 61.0 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     :  50 (+ 19,= 26,-  5), 64.0 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  50 (+ 18,= 22,- 10), 58.0 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c        :  58 (+ 19,= 35,-  4), 62.9 %
Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c           : 170 (+ 68,= 85,- 17), 65.0 %
Naum 4.2 x64 4c               :  92 (+ 54,= 31,-  7), 75.5 %
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c        : 130 (+ 28,= 65,- 37), 46.5 %
Komodo 3.0 x64                :  90 (+ 49,= 38,-  3), 75.6 %

3 Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c     : 3288  735 (+163,=438,-134), 52.0 %

Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  50 (+ 11,= 23,- 16), 45.0 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  48 (+ 12,= 31,-  5), 57.3 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         :  83 (+ 13,= 56,- 14), 49.4 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     :  53 (+ 21,= 24,-  8), 62.3 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  51 (+ 10,= 35,-  6), 53.9 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c        : 209 (+ 45,=133,- 31), 53.3 %
Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c           :  91 (+ 15,= 62,- 14), 50.5 %
Naum 4.2 x64 4c               :  50 (+ 24,= 23,-  3), 71.0 %
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c        : 100 (+ 12,= 51,- 37), 37.5 %

4 IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c     : 3282  493 (+104,=322,- 67), 53.8 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  83 (+ 14,= 56,- 13), 50.6 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  50 (+  5,= 29,- 16), 39.0 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  48 (+  8,= 30,- 10), 47.9 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     :  53 (+ 15,= 34,-  4), 60.4 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  68 (+  6,= 57,-  5), 50.7 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c        : 119 (+ 19,= 88,- 12), 52.9 %
Naum 4.2 x64 4c               :  72 (+ 37,= 28,-  7), 70.8 %

5 Critter 1.2 x64 4c        : 3281  400 (+ 78,=254,- 68), 51.2 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  48 (+  5,= 31,- 12), 42.7 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  50 (+  6,= 31,- 13), 43.0 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         :  48 (+ 10,= 30,-  8), 52.1 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     :  51 (+ 13,= 31,-  7), 55.9 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  49 (+ 13,= 31,-  5), 58.2 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c        :  85 (+ 10,= 62,- 13), 48.2 %
Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c           :  69 (+ 21,= 38,- 10), 58.0 %

6 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c    : 3268  604 (+ 87,=407,-110), 48.1 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         : 209 (+ 31,=133,- 45), 46.7 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  58 (+  4,= 35,- 19), 37.1 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  85 (+ 13,= 62,- 10), 51.8 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         : 119 (+ 12,= 88,- 19), 47.1 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     :  74 (+ 19,= 40,- 15), 52.7 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  59 (+  8,= 49,-  2), 55.1 %

7 Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c       : 3251  631 (+110,=351,-170), 45.2 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  91 (+ 14,= 62,- 15), 49.5 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           : 170 (+ 17,= 85,- 68), 35.0 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  69 (+ 10,= 38,- 21), 42.0 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     : 143 (+ 39,= 80,- 24), 55.2 %
Naum 4.2 x64 4c               :  68 (+ 24,= 37,-  7), 62.5 %
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c        :  90 (+  6,= 49,- 35), 33.9 %

8 DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c     : 3250  383 (+ 59,=252,- 72), 48.3 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  51 (+  6,= 35,- 10), 46.1 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  50 (+ 10,= 22,- 18), 42.0 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  49 (+  5,= 31,- 13), 41.8 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         :  68 (+  5,= 57,-  6), 49.3 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     :  48 (+  8,= 30,- 10), 47.9 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c        :  59 (+  2,= 49,-  8), 44.9 %
Naum 4.2 x64 4c               :  58 (+ 23,= 28,-  7), 63.8 %

9 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c : 3232  572 (+113,=313,-146), 47.1 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  53 (+  8,= 24,- 21), 37.7 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  50 (+  5,= 26,- 19), 36.0 %
Critter 1.2 x64 4c            :  51 (+  7,= 31,- 13), 44.1 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         :  53 (+  4,= 34,- 15), 39.6 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  48 (+ 10,= 30,-  8), 52.1 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 4c        :  74 (+ 15,= 40,- 19), 47.3 %
Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c           : 143 (+ 24,= 80,- 39), 44.8 %
Naum 4.2 x64 4c               : 100 (+ 40,= 48,- 12), 64.0 %

10 Komodo 3.0 x64            : 3165  200 (+ 14,= 73,-113), 25.2 %

Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  90 (+  3,= 38,- 49), 24.4 %
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 4c        : 110 (+ 11,= 35,- 64), 25.9 %

11 Naum 4.2 x64 4c           : 3144  440 (+ 43,=195,-202), 31.9 %

Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 4c         :  50 (+  3,= 23,- 24), 29.0 %
Houdini 1.5a x64 4c           :  92 (+  7,= 31,- 54), 24.5 %
IvanHoe 47c GH x64 4c         :  72 (+  7,= 28,- 37), 29.2 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 4c     : 100 (+ 12,= 48,- 40), 36.0 %
DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c         :  58 (+  7,= 28,- 23), 36.2 %
Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c           :  68 (+  7,= 37,- 24), 37.5 %

By Frank Quisinsky Date 2011-09-13 19:43

Again, and again!
What you do is fantastic!

That is the reason Computerchess is great.
Persons which such own and interesting activities give me the motivation I need.

Much more interesting as each commercial news about this one or that one.

Sedat, I am sure that we powered in the future one idea in team work.
Not a rating list, mean a nice new idea.

Will be an event for myself!

Best for you!
Frank

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2011-09-14 11:10

[quote="Frank Quisinsky"]
Again, and again!
What you do is fantastic!

That is the reason Computerchess is great.
Persons which such own and interesting activities give me the motivation I need.

Much more interesting as each commercial news about this one or that one.

Sedat, I am sure that we powered in the future one idea in team work.
Not a rating list, mean a nice new idea.

Will be an event for myself!

Best for you!
Frank
[/quote]

Hello dear Frank,

Many thanks for your nice words...

And i'd like to thank you also for including 'Sedatchess' site in your web download section

Actually i am trying to do my best for Computerchess,but unfortunately i have not much enough free time for all

About your offer/project in the future:
---------------------------------------
It sounds good... it makes me feel proud,especially when a offer comes from a such well-known chess expert like you !

*Without to not mention this i can't:
-You are very kind man and there is no doubt that you have a BIG heart!

*About your Computerchess activities:
-I have no words to say,exception your work is just 'Brilliant'

Best Regards,
Sedat

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2011-09-14 17:47

New games have been added (played by Komodo/DeepSaros/Naum)
The current SCCT Auto232's total database includes 3201 games

For Current Standings:
http://sedat-chess.110mb.com/index.php?p=1_8

Best,
Sedat

By Frank Quisinsky Date 2011-09-14 18:13

Dear Sedat,

BTW:
What's your opinion about DeepSaros?
Can you see differents in playing style to IvanHoe, Fire, Houdini?

I think I should give this engine a chance in SWCR.

On weekend I will look in your games.

Best
Frank

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2011-09-15 19:09

[quote="Frank Quisinsky"]
Dear Sedat,

BTW:
What's your opinion about DeepSaros?
Can you see differents in playing style to IvanHoe, Fire, Houdini?

I think I should give this engine a chance in SWCR.

On weekend I will look in your games.

Best
Frank
[/quote]

Dear Frank,

Normally i like the playing style of DeepSaros 2.3i x64 4c (its almost same strength as Ivanhoe B47d x64 4c),
but unfortunately i get many crashes by DeepSaros on my both machines

Best,
Sedat

By Frank Quisinsky Date 2011-09-14 18:03 Edited 2011-09-14 18:07

Dear Sedat,

thank you for your great words.

I am not sure what I do in the future with my hobby. SWCR will be not powered many of years because the topic give me at the moment not many new knowledge about engines and statistics. Perhaps 6 or 12 months I have in my brain and I stopped my rating activities. You can be sure, that I will inform you about new activities I have in my brain. Nice to get and read your opinion about such things in the past. Perhaps we will find out an idea you and I have interest on it. So we can start nice things in teamwork. All the years computerchess your opinion is very important for myself. Furthermore, I think I will give my hobby in the near future not so many time too. Should be an activitie with needed a normal "level" of time.

If you have an interesting idea, please inform me too

Best for you
Frank

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2011-09-15 10:14

[quote="Frank Quisinsky"]
Dear Sedat,

thank you for your great words.

I am not sure what I do in the future with my hobby. SWCR will be not powered many of years because the topic give me at the moment not many new knowledge about engines and statistics. Perhaps 6 or 12 months I have in my brain and I stopped my rating activities. You can be sure, that I will inform you about new activities I have in my brain. Nice to get and read your opinion about such things in the past. Perhaps we will find out an idea you and I have interest on it. So we can start nice things in teamwork. All the years computerchess your opinion is very important for myself. Furthermore, I think I will give my hobby in the near future not so many time too. Should be an activitie with needed a normal "level" of time.

If you have an interesting idea, please inform me too

Best for you
Frank
[/quote]

Hello dear Frank,

Really sad news that you will pause your computerchess activity
But i give you understanding and with no patience i will wait to see you back...

About my projects for the future (planning to be almost as before):
-Creating opening books
-Organizing Book Tournaments
-Auto232 Engine Tournaments
-Chess Benchmarks

About to work together-you and me:
-right now i am not 100 % sure,but normally i have a new idea for the future,to continue working on auto232 eng-matches

For example,i am planning to update my QX9650 hardware to AMD FX-8150 'Bulldozer' (8 cores)
Later i am planning to test the top engines in auto232 mode using AMD FX-8150 against Intel i7 920 @3.0GHz
So...if you are interested we can test the top engines via Playchess,with ponder on...
For example,you can participate with your hardware...

Lets see...the time will show up

I wich you all the best to you and your family,
Sedat

By Sedat Canbaz Date 2011-09-16 11:33

There were some questions regarding my hardwares/tournaments,so i decided to post here...

Some notes about the current used hardwares in SCCT Auto232:
------------------------------------------------------------
-I dont claim that the both hardwares (QX9650@3.66GHz/I7920@3.0GHz) have exactly same chess speed
*But looking at the current both hardware results,it seems they almost very near in chess speed

Fore more details please free to contact me

Best Regards,
Sedat

By Frank Quisinsky Date 2011-09-17 15:40

Hi Sedat,

nice!

It's not a problem for myself to update my systems to the same hardware you have. So why not we can do some things in teamwork with ideas you have. Very interesting for myself to try out other things as I have in my brain. The questions is how long I will play really on my own SWCR. I have here not an absolutly clear opinion becuase I have fun on looking LIVE on the games if I have time for it. The reason that the SWCR is now two years still running.

I have two Autoplayer cabel, but more as 15 years not in use. Find it today in my old computer chess box. I think I will contact you again end of the year with a more clear decision what I do with my SWCR.

And own ideas:
I start for a while to write a chess book. Topics are middlegames and analyzes by computer chess engines. Strong and weaknesses from chess programs (not my SWCR rating list in detail). I collect here some of my own material from the latest 30 years. At the moment I have written over 300 sites, around 50 sites with analyses and statistics. Not sure if a release this work or to which time my work is ready for take off.

During this work I find out that in closed middlegames much of the older or very older engines have more interesting ideas as the TOP engines today are available. Reason could be that the programmer try to implement more chess knowlege as in times today.

The middlegame is my personal big topic as part of chess, so I am thinking about it what can be do to make this topic more interesting with engines, statistics and so one.

Best
Frank