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- - By Werner Preuss Date 2011-08-06 00:46 Edited 2011-08-06 07:50
Hier die Stellung:



Hier die Frage: Führt 1. Txf8 zwingend zum Gewinn oder gibt es eine Widerlegung?

Gruß
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Parent - - By Thomas Müller Date 2011-08-06 09:24
ca. +4-5 sollte reichen

Analysis by Houdini 1.5a x64:

1.Tf1xf8+ De8xf8 2.Lc1-h6 Se7-f5 3.Ld3xf5 Df8xf5 4.Ta1-f1 g6-g5 5.Dh4-e1 Df5-g6 6.Tf1-f6 Ta8-d8 7.Tf6xg6+ h7xg6 8.Lh6xg5 Td8-c8 9.De1-e2 Th8-h7 10.g2-g4 Tc8-c6 11.Lg5-f6 Kg8-f7 12.Kg1-g2 Tc6-a6 13.a2-a3 Ta6-c6 14.h2-h3 Tc6-c8 15.Kg2-g3 b7-b6 16.De2-d3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 6/17   00:00:00  3kN
  +-  (4.87)   Tiefe: 25/91   00:06:25  3529mN

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Analysis by Deep Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64:

1.Lc1-g5 Se7-f5 2.Ld3xf5 Le6xf5 3.Lg5-f6 Lf8-g7 4.Lf6xg7 Kg8xg7 5.Tf1xf5 g6xf5 6.Dh4-f6+ Kg7-g8 7.Df6xf5 h7-h5 8.Df5-g5+ Kg8-h7 9.Dg5-f5+ De8-g6 10.Df5-d7+ Kh7-h6 11.Dd7xd5 Dg6-c6 12.Dd5-a5 Th8-g8 13.d4-d5 Dc6-g6 14.g2-g3 Tg8-f8
  =  (0.12)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  10kN
  =  (-0.22)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:01  620kN
1.Lc1-h6 Lf8xh6 2.Dh4xh6 Se7-f5 3.Ld3xf5 Le6xf5 4.Tf1-f3 De8-d7 5.Ta1-c1 Ta8-e8 6.h2-h3 Dd7-g7 7.Dh6-d2 Dg7-c7 8.b2-b3 Dc7-d7 9.Tc1-f1 h7-h6 10.c3-c4
  =  (-0.08)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:01  713kN
  =/+  (-0.36)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:04  1980kN
1.Lc1-g5 Se7-f5 2.Ld3xf5 Le6xf5 3.Lg5-f6 Lf8-g7 4.Lf6xg7 Kg8xg7 5.Dh4-f6+ Kg7-g8 6.Tf1-f2 De8-d7 7.Ta1-f1 Ta8-f8 8.e5-e6 Dd7-g7 9.Df6-h4 Tf8-e8 10.Tf2xf5 g6xf5
  =  (-0.10 ++)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:05  2608kN
  =  (-0.19)   Tiefe: 16   00:00:07  3507kN
1.Tf1xf8+ De8xf8 2.Lc1-h6[] Se7-f5 3.Ld3xf5[] Df8xf5 4.Ta1-f1[] g6-g5[] 5.Dh4-e1[] Df5-g6 6.Tf1-f6[] Dg6xf6 7.e5xf6[] Kg8-f7 8.De1-e5 Th8-g8 9.Lh6-g7 Tg8-d8 10.De5xg5 Td8-d7 11.g2-g4 Ta8-d8 12.h2-h3 Td8-c8 13.Kg1-f2 b7-b6 14.Kf2-g2 a7-a6 15.Kg2-f3 Tc8-d8 16.Kf3-g3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 16   00:00:10  4552kN
  +-  (3.41)   Tiefe: 22   00:09:59  262mN

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Analysis by Stockfish 2.1.1 JA 64bit:

1.g2-g4 Lf8-g7 2.Lc1-g5 Se7-c6 3.Lg5-f6 De8-f8 4.h2-h3 Lg7xf6 5.Tf1xf6 Df8-e7
  +-  (2.14)   Tiefe: 6/6   00:00:00  10kN
  +/-  (0.76)   Tiefe: 9/13   00:00:00  87kN
1.Dh4-f2 Lf8-g7 2.Lc1-g5 Le6-f5 3.Ld3xf5 Se7xf5 4.g2-g4 Lg7-h6 5.Lg5xh6 Sf5xh6 6.g4-g5
  +/=  (0.60)   Tiefe: 10/16   00:00:00  201kN
1.Lc1-g5 Se7-f5 2.Ld3xf5 Le6xf5 3.Lg5-f6 Lf8-g7 4.Lf6xg7 Kg8xg7 5.g2-g4 Lf5-e4 6.Dh4-f6+ Kg7-g8 7.Tf1-f4 h7-h5 8.Ta1-f1 h5xg4 9.Tf4xg4 Th8-h7 10.Tg4-f4
  +/=  (0.32)   Tiefe: 11/16   00:00:00  392kN
  =  (-0.08)   Tiefe: 12/22   00:00:01  937kN
1.Dh4-g3 Lf8-g7 2.a2-a4 Se7-f5 3.Dg3-f3 h7-h5 4.Lc1-d2 Kg8-h7 5.Ld3xf5 g6xf5 6.c3-c4 Ta8-d8 7.Ld2-g5
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 13/25   00:00:01  1515kN
1.Tf1xf8+ De8xf8 2.Lc1-h6 Se7-f5 3.Ld3xf5 Df8xf5 4.Ta1-f1 g6-g5 5.Dh4-e1 Df5-g6 6.Tf1-f6 Ta8-c8 7.Tf6xg6+ h7xg6 8.Lh6xg5 Th8-h7 9.De1-e2 Tc8-f8 10.g2-g4 a7-a6 11.c3-c4 Th7-f7 12.Lg5-f6 Tf7-d7 13.c4xd5 Td7xd5 14.De2-e3 Le6xg4 15.De3-h6 Tf8xf6 16.e5xf6 Kg8-f7 17.Dh6-g7+
  =  (0.12)   Tiefe: 14/25   00:00:01  1952kN
  +-  (4.12)   Tiefe: 35/58   00:02:13  1126mN

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Analysis by Deep Junior 12.5.0.3 UCI  UCI x64:

1.Lc1-g5 h7-h6 2.Lg5-f6 Th8-h7
  =  (0.06)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  2kN
1.Lc1-e3 Lf8-g7 2.Dh4-f4 Se7-f5 3.Ld3xf5
  =  (0.14)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  3kN
1.Dh4-f6 Se7-f5 2.Ld3xf5 Le6xf5 3.Lc1-g5 h7-h6 4.Lg5-h4 Lf8-g7 5.Df6-d6 Lf5-e4
  +/=  (0.39)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  6kN
  =  (0.16)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  25kN
1.Lc1-g5 Se7-f5 2.Dh4-f4 a7-a6 3.g2-g4 Sf5-e7 4.Ta1-e1
  =  (0.25)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  123kN
1.Lc1-h6 Lf8xh6 2.Dh4xh6 Le6-f5 3.Ta1-d1 De8-f8 4.Ld3xf5
  +/=  (0.42)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  148kN
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 24   00:03:37  3192mN
1.Tf1-f6 Se7-f5 2.Ld3xf5 Le6xf5 3.Lc1-h6 Lf8-e7 4.Ta1-f1 Lf5-e6 5.h2-h3 Ta8-c8 6.a2-a3 Le7xf6 7.Dh4xf6 De8-f7 8.Df6-g5 Df7-d7 9.Tf1-f6 Dd7-e8 10.Dg5-f4
  =  (0.10)   Tiefe: 24   00:05:30  4937mN
1.Tf1xf8+ De8xf8 2.Lc1-h6 Se7-f5 3.Ld3xf5 Df8xf5 4.Ta1-f1 g6-g5 5.Dh4-e1 Df5-g6 6.Tf1-f6 a7-a6 7.Tf6xg6+ h7xg6 8.Lh6xg5 Ta8-c8 9.De1-f2
  +/=  (0.44)   Tiefe: 24   00:05:32  4976mN
  +-  (3.20)   Tiefe: 26   00:09:31  8301mN
Parent - - By Günter Müller Date 2011-08-07 00:15
6600: Bißchen was zum analysieren
r3qbkr/pp2n2p/4b1p1/3pP3/3P3Q/2PB4/PP4PP/R1B2RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Shredder 12 x64:

1.Df6 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Txf5 gxf5 4.e6 Dg6
  =  (-0.04)   Tiefe: 6/10   00:00:00  24kN
1.Df2 h5 2.Df6
  =  (0.05)   Tiefe: 6/14   00:00:00  63kN
1.Df2 Lg7 2.Lg5 Sf5 3.Df3 h5 4.Lxf5 gxf5
  =  (0.04)   Tiefe: 7/18   00:00:00  91kN
1.Df2 Lg7 2.De2 Dd7 3.Lg5 Tf8 4.Txf8+ Kxf8 5.Tf1+ Kg8 6.Lb5 Dc7 7.g4
  =  (-0.08)   Tiefe: 8/20   00:00:00  161kN
1.Df2 Lg7 2.De2 Dd7 3.Lg5 Dc7 4.g4 h5 5.gxh5 Txh5 6.Lxe7 Dxe7 7.Lxg6
  =  (-0.18)   Tiefe: 9/23   00:00:00  388kN
1.Lg5 Lf5 2.Dg3 Lxd3 3.Dxd3 Sf5 4.g4 Sh6 5.De2 Sf7 6.Lf6 Lg7 7.Lxg7 Kxg7
  +/=  (0.26)   Tiefe: 9/23   00:00:00  478kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Lf6 Lg7 4.Lxg7 Kxg7 5.Df6+ Kg8 6.Txf5 gxf5 7.Tf1 Db5 8.Dg5+ Kf7
  =  (0.04)   Tiefe: 10/30   00:00:00  729kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Df4 h6 3.Lf6 Th7 4.a4 Tc8 5.g4 Se7 6.Lb5 g5 7.Dg3 Dg6
  =  (-0.13)   Tiefe: 11/27   00:00:00  1217kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Lf6 Lg7 4.Lxg7 Kxg7 5.Df6+ Kg8 6.Tae1 Df8 7.Dh4 h6 8.e6 Kh7 9.e7 Dg7
  =  (-0.20)   Tiefe: 12/25   00:00:01  2089kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Lf6 Lg7 4.Lxg7 Kxg7 5.Df6+ Kg8 6.Txf5 gxf5 7.Dxf5 Df8 8.Dg4+ Dg7 9.De6+ Df7 10.Dg4+ Dg6 11.Dd7 Df7 12.Dg4+ Dg6 13.Dd7 Df7 14.Dg4+
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 13/28   00:00:02  4885kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Lf6 Lg7 4.Lxg7 Kxg7 5.Df6+ Kg8 6.Txf5 gxf5 7.Dxf5 Df8 8.Dg4+ Dg7 9.De6+ Df7 10.Dg4+ Dg6 11.Dd7 Df7 12.Dg4+ Dg6 13.Dd7 Df7 14.Dg4+
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 14/34   00:00:03  6202kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Lf6 Lg7 4.Tae1 h5 5.Lxg7 Kxg7 6.Df6+ Kh7 7.Txf5 gxf5 8.Dxf5+ Dg6 9.Dd7+ Kh6 10.Dxd5 Db6 11.b3 Thf8 12.e6 Dc6 13.Dxc6 bxc6
  =  (-0.16)   Tiefe: 15/36   00:00:04  9238kN
1.Lg5 Sf5 2.Lxf5 Lxf5 3.Lf6 Lg7 4.Tae1 h5 5.e6 Th7 6.Te5 Tc8 7.Tfxf5 gxf5 8.Dg5 Tc6 9.Dxf5 Ta6 10.a4 Kh8 11.b3 Lxf6 12.Dxf6+ Tg7
  =  (-0.23)   Tiefe: 16/40   00:00:08  18391kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 Dd7 8.Df6 Df7 9.Dg5 Dd7 10.Df6 Df7
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 16/42   00:00:13  29015kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 Dd7 8.Df6 Df7 9.Dg5 Dd7 10.Df6 Df7
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 17/38   00:00:15  31950kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Dxf5 4.Tf1 g5 5.Lxg5 De4 6.Dg3 h5 7.Lf6+ Dg4 8.Dxg4+ hxg4 9.Lxh8 Kxh8 10.Tf4 Te8 11.Kf2 Kh7 12.Tf6
  +/=  (0.52)   Tiefe: 18/49   00:00:29  62264kN
  1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8
  +-  (3.64)   Tiefe: 19/57   00:06:53  934mN, bb=187


(Müller,  07.08.2011)
Parent - By Günter Müller Date 2011-08-07 00:27
Auch Fritz12 mit einer CPU findet die Lösung

6600: Bißchen was zum analysieren
r3qbkr/pp2n2p/4b1p1/3pP3/3P3Q/2PB4/PP4PP/R1B2RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 12:

1.Lh6 Lxh6 2.Dxh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Lxf5 4.Tf2 Df8 5.Dh4 Dd8 6.Dh6 Df8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 14/31   00:00:02  5459kN
1.Lh6 Lxh6 2.Dxh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Lxf5 4.Tf2 Df8 5.Dh4 Dd8 6.Dh6 Df8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 15/30   00:00:02  7035kN
1.Lh6 Lxh6 2.Dxh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Lxf5 4.Tae1 De7 5.Tf3 Tc8 6.Tef1 Dg7 7.De3 h5 8.e6 De7 9.Txf5 gxf5 10.Txf5
  =  (-0.19)   Tiefe: 16/36   00:00:05  13290kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 De8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 16/38   00:00:09  23429kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 De8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 17/33   00:00:10  26870kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 De8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 18/39   00:00:14  35178kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 De8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 19/34   00:00:20  51232kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 De8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 20/36   00:00:36  92943kN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.Tf1 Sf5 4.Lxf5 Lxf5 5.g4 Le6 6.Df6 Df7 7.Dg5 De8
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 21/41   00:00:56  144mN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Dxf5 4.Tf1 g5 5.Lxg5 Dg6 6.Lf6 Tf8 7.h3 h6 8.Lxh8 Txf1+ 9.Kxf1 Kxh8 10.Kg1 Kg7 11.De7+ Df7 12.Dxf7+ Kxf7 13.Kf2 Ke7 14.Ke3
  =  (0.21)   Tiefe: 22/47   00:01:56  302mN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Dxf5 4.Tf1 g5 5.Lxg5 De4 6.Dg3 h5 7.Lf6+ Dg4 8.Dxg4+ hxg4 9.Lxh8 Kxh8 10.Tf6 Te8 11.Kf2 Kg7 12.Kg3 Ld7 13.a3 Th8 14.b3
  +/=  (0.46)   Tiefe: 23/50   00:03:07  488mN
1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 De8 3.g4 Sc6 4.Tf1 Sd8 5.Df6 Df7 6.Dg5 De8 7.Lxg6 hxg6 8.Tf8+ Kh7 9.Df6 Dxf8 10.Lxf8 Txf8 11.Dxf8 Lxg4 12.Kf2 Tc8 13.Kg3 Le2 14.e6
  +-  (2.14)   Tiefe: 24/55   00:04:40  745mN
    1.Txf8+ Dxf8 2.Lh6 Sf5 3.Lxf5 Dxf5 4.Tf1 g5 5.De1 De4 6.Dc1 Tc8 7.Dxg5+ Dg6 8.Dh4 b5 9.h3 Lf7 10.Tf3 b4 11.Tg3 bxc3 12.bxc3 Tb8 13.Df4 Le6
  +-  (4.32)   Tiefe: 25/55   00:07:18  1207mN


(Müller,  07.08.2011)
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