Harte Nuß!

By Günther Höhne Date 2010-02-26 17:36

Hallo,

Deep Fritz 12 findet Sf6, braucht allerdings dafür gut 25 Minuten. Hardware: I5 750 2,66 GHZ.

Neue Partie
1rr2bk1/1q3ppp/bn1p4/2nPpNP1/1p2P1N1/1p2B2P/P1B2P2/2R1Q1RK w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz 12:

1.axb3 Sd3 2.Lxd3 Lxd3 3.f3 Sxd5 4.Sfh6+ gxh6 5.exd5 Le7 6.Td1 Dxd5 7.Sf6+
-/+ (-0.75)   Tiefe: 11/30   00:00:00 842kN
1.Sgh6+ Kh8 2.Lxc5 Txc5 3.Lxb3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 g6 5.Se3 f6 6.Sc2 Dd7 7.Kh2 fxg5 8.Dxg5
-/+ (-0.73)   Tiefe: 11/32   00:00:00 1147kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.Lxb3 Txc1 3.Dxc1 Tc8 4.Dd2 Tc3 5.Kh2 Dd7 6.Tc1 Le7 7.Sxe7+
=/+ (-0.33)   Tiefe: 11/32   00:00:00 1802kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.Lxb3 Txc1 3.Dxc1 Tc8 4.Dd2 Tc3 5.Kh2 Dc7 6.Sge3 Ld3 7.f3 Le7
=/+ (-0.41)   Tiefe: 12/27   00:00:00 2171kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.Lxb3 Txc1 3.Dxc1 Tc8 4.Dd2 Tc3 5.Kh2 Dc7 6.Sf6+ Kh8 7.Sg4 g6 8.Sfe3 Lg7
=/+ (-0.41)   Tiefe: 13/30   00:00:00 2964kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.Lxb3 Txc1 3.Dxc1 Tc8 4.Dd2 Tc3 5.Tg3 Dc7 6.Te3 Le7 7.Kg2 Lb5 8.h4 Ld8
=/+ (-0.36)   Tiefe: 14/32   00:00:00 4185kN
1.Lxc5 b2 2.Lxd6 Lxd6 3.Sxd6 bxc1D 4.Dxc1 Dc7 5.Sxc8 Txc8 6.Se3 Ld3 7.Lxd3 Dxc1 8.Txc1 Txc1+ 9.Kg2 Ta1 10.Sc2
-/+ (-0.80)   Tiefe: 15/34   00:00:01 10398kN
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Lxd3 Lxd3 3.f3 Sxd5 4.Sgh6+ Kh8 5.Dd2 Sxe3 6.Dxd3 Sxf5 7.Sxf5 Tc3 8.Txc3 bxc3 9.Dxc3 Dxb3 10.Tc1
=/+ (-0.64)   Tiefe: 15/39   00:00:01 13247kN
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Sf6+ Kh8 3.Lxd3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Lxd3 5.Dd1 Da6 6.Dg4 Ta8 7.Kg2 gxf6 8.gxf6 Sd7 9.Dh4 Da2
= (-0.13)   Tiefe: 16/36   00:00:02 21428kN
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Sf6+ Kh8 3.Lxd3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Lxd3 5.Dd1 Da6 6.Dg4 Ta8 7.Dh4 gxf6 8.Lxb6 Dxb6 9.gxf6 Dd8 10.Dg4 Lxe4+ 11.Dxe4
+/= (0.53)   Tiefe: 17/37   00:00:03 36467kN
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Sf6+ Kh8 3.Lxd3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Lxd3 5.Dd1 Da6 6.Dg4 Le2 7.Dg3 Db5 8.Kg2 gxf6 9.gxf6
+/= (0.28)   Tiefe: 18/38   00:00:05 49122kN
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Sf6+ Kh8 3.Lxd3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Lxd3 5.Dd2 Da6 6.Lxb6 Txb6 7.Kh2 Lb5 8.Sg4 Ld3 9.f3 Le2 10.Kg2
+/= (0.42)   Tiefe: 19/41   00:00:09 88533kN
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dxb4 g6 3.Sg3 Sbd7 4.Dxb7 Txb7 5.Ta1 Sd3 6.Txa6 Txc2 7.Ta3 Kg7 8.Kg2 Tc3
+/= (0.64)   Tiefe: 20/46   00:00:52 531mN
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dxb4 g6 3.Sg3 Sbd7 4.Dxb7 Txb7 5.Ta1 Sd3 6.Ld1 Lb5 7.Ta5 Sf4 8.Lxf4 exf4
+/- (0.71)   Tiefe: 21/45   00:01:16 755mN
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dd2 Dc7 3.Lb1 g6 4.Sfh6 De7 5.Lxc5 dxc5 6.Db2 Lxh6 7.Sxh6 Tb7 8.f4
+/- (1.11)   Tiefe: 22/50   00:06:27 3553mN
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dd2 Dc7 3.Lb1 g6 4.Sfh6 De7 5.Lxc5 dxc5 6.f4 exf4 7.Dxf4 Tb7 8.Tg2 Lg7 9.Tf2
+/- (1.07)   Tiefe: 23/50   00:07:57 4416mN
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dd1 g6 3.Sfh6 Lxh6 4.Sxh6 De7 5.f4 Scd7 6.f5 Tc3 7.f6 De8 8.Tg3
+/- (1.24)   Tiefe: 24/53   00:19:31 10993mN
1.Sf6+ Kh8 2.f3 Sxd5 3.exd5 bxc2 4.Sxh7 Sd7 5.Dh4 Tc4 6.Tg4 Kg8 7.Txc4 Dxd5 8.Sxf8 Dxf3+ 9.Kh2 Dxf5
+- (3.43)   Tiefe: 24/57   00:25:35 14683mN

(, MyTown 26.02.2010)

Gruß
Günther

By peter struwel Date 2010-02-26 17:41

Engine:

Stockfish 1.6.3 JA:

  19  07:08  1.297.071.652  3.029.323  +1,33  Sg4f6+ Kg8h8 f2f3 b3xa2 De1h4 g7xf6 g5xf6 Sc5d7 Dh4g3 Sd7xf6 Dg3g5 Sb6d7 Sf5xd6
  20  22:01  3.996.931.191  3.023.937  +3,23  Sg4f6+ Kg8h8 f2f3 La6e2 Sf6xh7 Le2xf3+ Kh1h2 Lf3h5 Sh7xf8 b3xc2 Sf5xd6 Db7e7 Sd6xc8 Tb8xc8 De1xb4 De7xf8 Tc1xc2 Sb6d7 Tg1c1 Df8d8 Le3xc5 Dd8xg5 Db4e1 Sd7f6 Lc5e3 Tc8xc2+ Tc1xc2 Dg5g6 De1h4 Dg6xe4 Dh4xe4 Sf6xe4 Tc2c7

By Peter Martan Date 2010-02-26 18:09

Kann es sein. dass da eine Zugumstellung geht, Anton?
Analysis by spark-0.3a4:

1.axb3 Sbd7 2.f3 Sd3 3.Lxd3 Lxd3
= (0.16)   Tiefe: 6/9   00:00:00 15kN
1.axb3 Sbd7 2.f3 Sd3 3.Lxd3 Lxd3 4.Tg2
= (0.23)   Tiefe: 7/11   00:00:00 44kN
1.axb3 Sbd7 2.f3 Sd3 3.Lxd3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Lxd3
+/= (0.26)   Tiefe: 8/14   00:00:00 103kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.Lxb3 Txc1 3.Dxc1 Tc8 4.Dd2 Sc4 5.Dd3 Sb2 6.Dd2
= (-0.12)   Tiefe: 9/25   00:00:00 556kN
...
11.Lxc5 b2 2.Lxd6 Lxd6 3.Sxd6 bxc1D 4.Dxc1 Dc7 5.Sxc8 Txc8 6.Se3 Ld3 7.Lxd3 Dxc1 8.Txc1 Txc1+ 9.Kg2 Kf8
=/+ (-0.49)   Tiefe: 14/32   00:00:03 12856kN
1.axb3
= (-0.18)   Tiefe: 14/32   00:00:04 15079kN
...
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Sf6+ Kh8 3.Lxd3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Lxd3 5.Dd1 Da6 6.Sh6 gxh6 7.Lxb6 Txb6 8.gxh6 Lxe4+ 9.Sxe4 Lxh6 10.Df3
= (0.06)   Tiefe: 15/32   00:00:06 21213kN
...
1.f3
+/= (0.31)   Tiefe: 16/37   00:00:24 74628kN

1.f3 Sxd5 2.exd5 bxc2 3.Sf6+ Kh8 4.Sxh7 Sd7 5.Sf6 Tc4 6.f4 Sxf6 7.gxf6 g6 8.Dh4+ Kg8 9.Sh6+ Kh7 10.Sxf7+ Kg8 11.Txg6+ Kxf7 12.Dh5 Ke8 13.Tg7+ Kd8 14.Txb7 Lxb7 15.fxe5 Lxd5+ 16.Kh2 dxe5 17.Dxe5
+- (2.98)   Tiefe: 20/54   00:14:01 2288mN
1.f3
+- (3.23)   Tiefe: 21/54   00:22:41 3632mN

By Peter Martan Date 2010-02-26 18:26

P.S. Ansonsten ist es wieder ein klarer Fall von linearer Königssicherheit bei Stocki, damit auf Quad sofort, deault braucht ein bissi länger, wie schon gepostet wurde.

By Anton Stadlhofer Date 2010-02-26 19:34

Hallo Peter

ich befürchte, daß du recht hast.........

lg Anton

By Peter Martan Date 2010-02-26 21:29

Spielt doch keine Rolle.
Erstaunlich, wie lange Firebird da braucht:

Analysis by FireBird 1.1 w32:

1.axb3 Sbd7 2.Dd2 Ta8 3.Ta1 Db6 4.f3
= (0.01)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00 6kN
...
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Lxd3 Lxd3 3.Sg3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Tc8 5.Dd2 Tc3
= (-0.23 !)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00 103kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.axb3 Tc3 3.Tg3 Tbc8 4.Dd2 Sd7 5.Kh2 Db6 6.Te3 Da5
=/+ (-0.66)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00 151kN
...
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.Lxb3 Txc1 3.Dxc1 Tc8 4.De3 Sc4 5.Lxc4 Txc4 6.Sfh6+ Kh8 7.Df3 f6 8.Se3 Tc8 9.Shf5 fxg5 10.Txg5 g6
=/+ (-0.63)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:00 995kN
1.axb3 Sd3 2.Lxd3 Lxd3 3.Sg3 Txc1 4.Dxc1 Tc8 5.Dd2 Tc3
=/+ (-0.50 !)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:00 1142kN
...
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dxb4 Le2 3.Tg3 Sa6 4.De1 Lxg4 5.hxg4 g6 6.Sh6 Lxh6 7.gxh6 Sd7 8.f4 f6 9.Df2 Kg8 10.fxe5 fxe5 11.Tf1 Tf8 12.Tf3 Sb4 13.Lb1 Db5 14.Dg2
+/= (0.52)   Tiefe: 24   00:24:34 4745mN, tb=13599
1.Sf6+
+/= (0.53 !)   Tiefe: 24   00:39:32 7662mN, tb=18012
...
+- (1.50 !)   Tiefe: 24   02:15:11 26274mN, tb=136797

Und immer noch keine HV.

By Peter Martan Date 2010-02-26 22:24

Keine Stellung für Robi und Rübi:

Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit:

1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.axb3 Sd7
=/+ (-0.26)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00 17kN
1.Lxc5 Txc5 2.axb3 Sd7 3.Dd2
=/+ (-0.32)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00 22kN
1.axb3
= (-0.06 !)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00 37kN
...
1.axb3 Kh8 2.Dxb4 Le2 3.Tg3 Sbd7 4.Dxb7 Txb7 5.f4 Lxg4 6.hxg4 Tbc7 7.Te1 Ta8 8.Tg2 g6 9.Sh6 Lxh6 10.gxh6 Tb8 11.Tb1
+/= (0.51)   Tiefe: 18   00:05:43 35051kN
1.f3
+/- (0.74 !)   Tiefe: 18   00:40:30 213mN

By Thomas Müller Date 2010-02-27 11:00

hier was von Zappa......

Analysis by Zappa Mexico II:

1.a2xb3 Sc5-d3 2.Sg4-f6+ g7xf6 3.g5xf6+ Kg8-h8 4.De1-d1 Sb6xd5 5.Dd1-g4 Sd5xf6
= (0.10)   Tiefe: 10/37   00:00:00 971kN
1.Le3xc5 Tc8xc5 2.Lc2xb3 Tc5xc1 3.De1xc1 Tb8-c8 4.Dc1-d2 Tc8-c3
= (0.23)   Tiefe: 10/37   00:00:00 1486kN
= (0.23)   Tiefe: 11/38   00:00:01 2791kN
1.a2xb3 g7-g6 2.f2-f4 Kg8-h8 3.De1-h4 Sc5-d7 4.Sf5-h6 Tc8xc2 5.Tc1xc2 La6-d3 6.Sh6xf7+ Kh8-g8 7.Sg4-h6+ Lf8xh6 8.Sf7xd6 Db7-a7
+/= (0.57)   Tiefe: 11/38   00:00:01 3250kN
+/- (0.96)   Tiefe: 18/55   00:02:12 774mN
1.Sg4-f6+ Kg8-h8 2.f2-f3 La6-e2 3.Sf6xh7 Le2xf3+ 4.Kh1-h2 Db7-a6 5.De1-h4 Da6-e2+ 6.Le3-f2 Lf3-h5 7.Sh7-f6 Sc5xe4 8.Lc2xe4 Tc8xc1 9.Sf5-g3 De2xf2+ 10.Tg1-g2 Df2xg2+ 11.Kh2xg2
+- (2.32)   Tiefe: 18/55   00:04:51 1745mN
+- (4.92)   Tiefe: 24/67   02:45:06 64523mN

Junior 2010 findet die Variante mit f3 und zugumstellung, habs blöderweise weggeklickt

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