Endspiel ohne Endspieldatenbanken

By peter struwel Date 2010-01-17 16:08

welche engine kann es schneller?

Engine:


Rybka 1.2f 32-bit:
nach 20 minuten abgebrochen!

  19  00:01       942.512  623.470  -5,57  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Dg3h4+ Kh1g1 Dh4f4 Lg2h1 Df4d4+ Kg1h2 Dd4e5+ Kh2g1 De5g3+ Lh1g2 Dg3e1+
  20  00:03     1.844.184  604.108  -9,11  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Kb8c7 Kh1g1 Kc7b6 Kg1f1 Kb6c5 Kf1g1 Kc5d4 Kg1h1 Kd4e3 Kh1g1 Dg3f2+
  21  01:44    58.062.808  572.030  -9,11  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Kb8c7 Kh1g1 Kc7b6 Kg1f1 Kb6c5 Kf1g1 Kc5d4 Kg1h1 Kd4e3 Kh1g1 Dg3f2+
  22  01:44    58.390.608  571.395  -9,11  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Kb8c7 Kh1g1 Kc7b6 Kg1f1 Kb6c5 Kf1g1 Kc5d4 Kg1h1 Kd4e3 Kh1g1 Dg3f2+
  23  01:45    58.828.840  570.656  -9,11  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Kb8c7 Kh1g1 Kc7b6 Kg1f1 Kb6c5 Kf1g1 Kc5d4 Kg1h1 Kd4e3 Kh1g1 Dg3f2+

Engine:


bright-0.4a:
  1/3  00:00             3  3  -5,69  Lg2f3
  2/6  00:00            33  2  -54,15  Lg2f3
  2/6  00:00            39  2  -54,05  Kh1g1
  3/6  00:00            41  2  -54,05  Kh1g1
  4/6  00:00            48  3  -54,05  Kh1g1
  5/6  00:00           130  2  -55,21  Kh1g1 Kb8c7
  6/7  00:00           589  7  -54,03  Kh1g1 Dd6f8 Lg2f3
  7/7  00:00           653  8  -54,03  Kh1g1 Dd6f8 Lg2f3
  8/13  00:00         3.348  21  -55,19  Kh1g1 Dd6f8 Lg2e4 Kb8c7
  9/13  00:00         5.628  32  -53,91  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2d5 Df4d2 Kg1f1
 10/13  00:00         6.433  37  -53,91  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2d5 Df4d2 Kg1f1
 11/19  00:00       218.235  317  -55,19  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Df4c1+ Kg1h2 Kb8c7
 12/19  00:00       242.281  323  -54,01  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 Df4d4+ Kg1f1
 13/19  00:00       251.431  328  -54,01  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 Df4d4+ Kg1f1
 14/19  00:01       346.452  260  -55,17  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 Df4f8 Lg2e4 Kc7b6
 15/19  00:01       398.529  277  -54,11  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 Df4f5 Lg2c6 Df5c5+ Kg1h2
 16/19  00:01       426.142  286  -54,11  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 Df4f5 Lg2c6 Df5c5+ Kg1h2
 17/25  00:02       941.366  430  -55,15  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 Df4f5 Lg2h1 Df5b1+ Kg1h2 Db1b2+
 18/25  00:04     1.353.451  298  -54,09  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Kb8c7 Kh1h2 Dc5a3 Lg2h1 Da3d6+ Kh2g1 Dd6d4+ Kg1h2
 19/25  00:05     1.449.009  271  -54,09  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Kb8c7 Kh1h2 Dc5a3 Lg2h1 Da3d6+ Kh2g1 Dd6d4+ Kg1h2
 20/27  00:10     1.924.985  185  -55,13  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Dc5c1+ Kh1h2 Dc1f4+ Kh2g1 Kb8c7 Kg1h1 Kc7b6 Kh1g1 Df4d4+
 21/27  00:16     2.778.068  167  -54,15  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Dc5c1+ Kh1h2 Dc1f4+ Kh2g1 Kb8c7 Lg2h1 Df4g3+ Lh1g2 Dg3e3+ Kg1h1
 22/31  00:19     2.985.452  150  -54,15  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Dc5c1+ Kh1h2 Dc1f4+ Kh2g1 Df4g3 Kg1h1 Dg3f2 Kh1h2 Kb8c7 Kh2h1
 23/33  00:29     3.832.349  128  -55,11  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Dc5c1+ Kh1h2 Dc1e3 Lg2h1 Kb8c7 Lh1g2 De3e5+ Kh2g1 De5e1+ Kg1h2 De1h4+
 24/33  00:42     5.170.238  122  -54,13  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Dc5c1+ Kh1h2 Dc1e3 Lg2h1 De3e5+ Kh2g1 De5g3+ Lh1g2 Kb8c7 Kg1h1 Dg3g6 Lg2f3
 25/35  00:49     5.887.771  119  -54,13  Kh1g1 Dd6c5+ Kg1h1 Dc5c1+ Kh1h2 Dc1e3 Lg2h1 De3e5+ Kh2g1 De5e1+ Kg1h2 De1e3 Lh1g2 Kb8c7 Kh2h1

Engine:


Rybka 3 Dynamic 32-bit:
  22  02:29    13.678.637  93.632  -5,09  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Dg3h4+ Kh1g1 Dh4e1+ Kg1h2 De1e5+
  23  04:51    25.771.450  90.618  -5,09  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Dg3h4+ Kh1g1 Dh4e1+ Kg1h2 De1e5+
  24  09:58    85.139.298  145.767  -5,10  Lg2f3 Dd6g3

Engine:


FireBird 1.0 beta w32:
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  23  00:03    14.190.760  3.898.000  -7,15  Lg2e4 Dd6e5 Le4f3 De5g3 Lf3g2 Dg3f4 Kh1g1 Df4d4+ Kg1h2 Dd4e3 Kh2h1 De3d2 Kh1g1 Dd2f4 Kg1h1 Df4g3 Kh1g1 Dg3e1+ Kg1h2 De1e5+ Kh2h1 De5g3
  23  00:03    14.190.760  3.898.000  -7,15  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Dg3f4 Kh1g1 Df4d4+ Kg1h2 Dd4e3 Kh2h1 De3d2 Kh1g1 Dd2f4 Kg1h1 Df4g3 Kh1g1 Dg3e1+ Kg1h2 De1e5+ Kh2h1 De5g3
  23  00:03    14.190.760  3.898.000  -7,15  Kh1g1 Dd6d2 Kg1h1 Dd2e1+ Kh1h2 De1e5+ Kh2h1 De5g3 Kh1g1 Dg3e1+ Kg1h2
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  24  00:09    39.689.867  4.290.000  -M18  Lg2e4 Dd6e5 Le4f3 De5g3 Lf3g2 Dg3f4 Kh1g1 Kb8c7 Kg1h1 Kc7b6 Kh1g1 Kb6c5 Lg2f3 Df4g3+ Lf3g2 Kc5d4 Kg1h1 Kd4e3 Kh1g1 Dg3f2+ Kg1h2 Df2h4+ Lg2h3 Dh4f4+ Kh2g1 Df4f2+ Kg1h1 Df2g3 b7b8T Dg3xh3+ Kh1g1 Dh3g3+ Kg1h1 Dg3xb8 Kh1g2 Db8b7+ Kg2g3 Db7g7+ Kg3h3 Dg7d7+ Kh3g3 Dd7d5 Kg3g4 Dd5a5 Kg4h3 Da5g5 Kh3h2 Ke3f2 Kh2h3 Dg5g3+
  24  00:09    39.689.867  4.290.000  -M18  Lg2f3 Dd6g3 Lf3g2 Dg3f4 Kh1g1 Kb8c7 Kg1h1 Kc7b6 Kh1g1 Kb6c5 Lg2f3 Df4g3+ Lf3g2 Kc5d4 Kg1h1 Kd4e3 Kh1g1 Dg3f2+ Kg1h2 Df2h4+ Lg2h3 Dh4f4+ Kh2g1 Df4f2+ Kg1h1 Df2g3 b7b8T Dg3xh3+ Kh1g1 Dh3g3+ Kg1h1 Dg3xb8 Kh1g2 Db8b7+ Kg2g3 Db7g7+ Kg3h3 Dg7d7+ Kh3g3 Dd7d5 Kg3g4 Dd5a5 Kg4h3 Da5g5 Kh3h2 Ke3f2 Kh2h3 Dg5g3+
  24  00:09    39.689.867  4.290.000  -M18  Kh1g1 Dd6f4 Kg1h1 Kb8a7 Kh1g1 Ka7b8
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Quelle: http://schachcomputerwelt.foren-city.de/topic,240,-rybka-im-endspiel-ohne-endspieldatenbanken.html

By Peter Unger Date 2010-01-17 17:57

auf einem Quad zeigt die no-name-Engine in der 64 Bit-Fassung nach 13 Sekunden ein Matt in 13 an.

By Werner Mueller Date 2010-01-17 20:33

[quote="Peter Unger"]
auf einem Quad zeigt die no-name-Engine in der 64 Bit-Fassung nach 13 Sekunden ein Matt in 13 an.
[/quote]

FireBird im Endspiel ist übrigens eine wahre Freude.
Welche Engine löst z.B. folgende Studie innerhalb von Sekunden.

Kuznetsov 1979

By peter struwel Date 2010-01-17 21:08

na, wer wohl! der feuervogel!

Engine:



FireBird 1.0 beta w32:
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  23  00:02     6.928.084  2.936.000  +0,37  Kd6e6 Kb8c8 Ke6e7 g7g6 Ke7e8 Lf1b5+ Ke8f7 Lb5c4+ Kf7f6 Lc4f1 Kf6e7 g6g5 Ke7e8 Lf1b5+ Ke8f7 Lb5c4+ Kf7f6 Lc4d5 Kf6e7 Ld5f3 Tg1c1+ Kc8b8 Ke7f6 Lf3e2 Tc1g1 Le2f1 Kf6e6 Kb8c8 Ke6e7 g5g4 Ke7e8 Lf1b5+ Ke8f8 Kc8d7 Tg1xg2 Kd7c6 Kf8e7 Kc6xb6 Ke7d6 Lb5c4 Tg2xg4 Kb6b5 Tg4g7 Kb5b4 Tg7xb7+ Kb4c3 Kd6e5 Kc3c2 Tb7b4 Kc2d3
  23  00:02     6.928.084  2.936.000  +1,62  Kd6d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g7g6 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g6g5 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g5g4 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 Lf1d3 Tg1xg2 Ld3f5 Kd8e7 Kb8a8 Ke7d6 Ka8b8 Kd6e5 Lf5c8 Ke5f4 Lc8d7 Kf4g3 Ld7c6 Tg2f2
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  24  00:06    20.870.672  3.202.000  +0,33  Kd6e6 Kb8c8 Ke6e7 g7g6 Ke7e8 g6g5 Ke8e7 g5g4 Ke7e8 Lf1b5+ Ke8f8 Kc8d7 Tg1xg2 Kd7c6 Kf8e7 Kc6xb6 Ke7d6 Lb5c4 Tg2xg4 Kb6b5 Tg4g7 b7b6 Tg7b7 Kb5b4 Tb7xb6+ Kb4c3 Kd6e5 Lc4f7 Tb6b8 Kc3d3 Tb8f8 Lf7g6 Tf8f3+ Kd3e2 Tf3a3 Lg6e8
  24  00:06    20.870.672  3.202.000  +M17  Kd6d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g7g6 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g6g5 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g5g4 Kd8d7 Lf1a6 Tg1xg2 La6f1 Tg2g3 Lf1e2 Kd7e7 Kb8a8 Ke7d8 Le2d1 Tg3g1 Ld1b3 Tg1xg4 Lb3e6 Tg4g3 Le6d5 Kd8d7 Ld5e4 Tg3g8+
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  25  00:08    25.862.613  3.134.000  +0,33  Kd6e6 Kb8c8 Ke6e7 g7g6 Ke7e8 g6g5 Ke8e7 g5g4 Ke7e8 Lf1b5+ Ke8f8 Kc8d7 Tg1xg2 Kd7c6 Kf8e7 Kc6xb6 Ke7d6 Lb5c4 Tg2xg4 Kb6b5 Tg4g7 b7b6 Tg7b7 Kb5b4 Tb7xb6+ Kb4c3 Kd6c5 Lc4d3 Kc5d5 Ld3c4+ Kd5e4 Lc4g8 Tb6c6+ Kc3b3 Ke4d4 Lg8f7 Tc6c5
  25  00:08    25.862.613  3.134.000  +M17  Kd6d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g7g6 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g6g5 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g5g4 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 Lf1c4 Tg1xg2 Lc4d5 Tg2xg4 Ld5e6 Tg4f4 Le6b3 Kd8e7 Lb3c2 Tf4f8+
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  26  00:11    34.705.951  3.146.000  +0,33  Kd6e6 Kb8c8 Ke6e7 g7g6 Ke7e8 g6g5 Ke8e7 g5g4 Ke7e8 Lf1b5+ Ke8f8 Kc8d7 Tg1xg2 Kd7c6 Kf8e7 Kc6xb6 Ke7d6 Lb5c4 Tg2xg4 Kb6b5 Tg4g7 b7b6 Tg7b7 Kb5b4 Tb7xb6+ Kb4c3 Tb6b7 Kc3d4 Tb7b4 Kd4d3 Tb4b8 Kd3d4 Tb8b1 Kd4d3 Kd6c5 Lc4f7 Tb1b8 Kd3c3 Tb8b6 Lf7c4 Tb6b1 Lc4d3 Tb1h1 Ld3f5 Th1c1+ Kc3d2
  26  00:11    34.705.951  3.146.000  +M17  Kd6d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g7g6 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g6g5 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 g5g4 Kd8d7 Lf1b5+ Kd7e7 Lb5f1 Ke7d8 Lf1c4 Tg1xg2 Lc4d5 Tg2xg4 Ld5e6 Tg4g3 Le6c4 Tg3g6 Lc4a2 Kd8d7 La2f7 Tg6g3 Lf7c4 Kd7d8 Lc4b5 Kd8e7 Lb5c4 Tg3f3 Lc4d5 Tf3f5 Ld5a2 Tf5f4 La2d5 Tf4f8+
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By Franz Huber Date 2010-01-18 13:48

[quote="peter struwel"]
na, wer wohl! der feuervogel!

[/quote]
Na ja, recht zuverlässig scheint mir die Analyse aber nicht zu sein.
Angezeigt wird ein +M17, die Lösungsvariante ist dann aber 24 Züge lang -
tatsächlich ist die Stellung jedoch ein #21:

ChestUCI Ver.5.2:
CPU: Celeron 400MHz
FEN: 1k6/1p4p1/1P1K4/8/8/8/6p1/5bR1 w - -   (3+5)
Stellungs-Analyse: C0/R0/K3/P3/X9   W:2/9
Suche nach Spezial-Matt [C4/R0/K3/P4/X15] in 21 ... (Hash=64MB)
21 24:00   113.565.130 79.116 +M21 1.Kd7
Suche abgeschlossen ... (Zeit=2046.31s)
Matt in 21 gefunden ! (1 Lösung in 34:06)
21/21 35:44   162.626.947 79.473 +M21 1.Kd7 Lb5+ 2.Ke7 Lf1 3.Kd8 g6 4.Kd7 Lb5+ 5.Ke7 Lf1 6.Kd8 g5 7.Kd7 Lb5+ 8.Ke7 Lf1 9.Kd8 g4 10.Kd7 Lb5+ 11.Ke7 Lf1 12.Kd8 g3 13.Ke8 Lb5+ 14.Ke7 Lf1 15.Kd8 Le2 16.Txg2 Lf3 17.Txg3 Lh5 18.Kd7 Le8+ 19.Kxe8 Kc8 20.Td3 Kb8 21.Td8+
Bester Zug: Kd7, Wert: +Matt in 21, Tiefe: 21/21, Dauer: 35:44,391, 162.626.947 Knoten, 79.473 K/sek