Harte Nuß!!

By Michael Enderle Date 2009-08-09 12:58

Neue Partie
6nN/2p5/P1k2b2/2Bpp3/8/3bR3/8/K7 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 5.32:

1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Td4 Kxc5 3.Sf7
=/+ (-0.43)   Tiefe: 2/4   00:00:00
-/+ (-1.32)   Tiefe: 2/4   00:00:00
1.a7 Lg5
-+ (-2.14)   Tiefe: 4/8   00:00:00
-+ (-2.14)   Tiefe: 4/8   00:00:00
1.Ld4 Lxh8 2.a7 Kb7 3.Tg3 Sf6 4.Txd3 exd4 5.Ta3
-+ (-1.91)   Tiefe: 4/8   00:00:00
-+ (-1.91)   Tiefe: 8/16   00:00:00 193kN
1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sg6 Lg5 4.a7 Kb7 5.Se5 d2 6.Kc2 Sf6
-+ (-1.90)   Tiefe: 8/16   00:00:00 212kN
-+ (-1.62)   Tiefe: 9/18   00:00:00 340kN
1.Ld4 Lxh8 2.Txe5
-+ (-1.61)   Tiefe: 9/18   00:00:00 418kN
-+ (-1.61)   Tiefe: 9/18   00:00:00 427kN
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 Lc4+ 5.Ka3 Ld5 6.Kb4 Sh6
-+ (-1.60)   Tiefe: 9/18   00:00:00 485kN
-/+ (-1.08)   Tiefe: 10/20   00:00:00 941kN
1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sg6 d4 4.Kc1 Sh6 5.Kd2 Sg4 6.Kxd3 Sf2+ 7.Kc4 Sd1 8.Sf4 Sb2+ 9.Kb4 Le5 10.a7 Kb7
-/+ (-1.07)   Tiefe: 10/20   00:00:00 1030kN
= (-0.15)   Tiefe: 19/31   00:01:32 128mN
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 Le7 4.Lxe7 Sxe7 5.Th7 Sf5 6.Txc7+ Ka8 7.Kb2 e3 8.Kc1 Sd4 9.Te7 Sc2 10.Te6
= (-0.14)   Tiefe: 19/31   00:08:36 696mN
= (-0.14)   Tiefe: 19/31   00:09:10 743mN

(Enderle, Schorndorf 09.08.2009)

By Charly Alt Date 2009-08-09 13:05

Neue Partie
6nN/2p5/P1k2b2/2Bpp3/8/3bR3/8/K7 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 1.4 JA:

1. +- (5.37): 1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sf7 d4 4.Kb2 Se7 5.Sd8+ Kxc5 6.a7 Sd5 7.a8D Lxd8 8.Dxd8 Kc4 9.Db8 d2 10.Db3+ Kc5 11.Kc2 Sb4+ 12.Kd1 Kb5 13.De6 c5 14.Kxd2 Ka5 15.De2 Kb6 16.De8 Ka5
2. = (0.12): 1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 Sh6 4.Th3 Lc4+ 5.Ka3 Sf5 6.Th7 Ld4 7.Kb4 Lxc5+ 8.Kxc5 Kxa7 9.Txc7+ Ka6 10.Se5 Lb5 11.Tf7 Se3 12.Sd7 Lxd7 13.Txd7 Sg4 14.Td6+ Kb7 15.Kxd5 e3 16.Kd4
3. -+ (-1.91): 1.Ld4 Lxh8 2.Txd3 exd4 3.Ta3 d3+ 4.Kb1 Ld4 5.a7 Lxa7 6.Txa7 Kd6 7.Ta3 c5 8.Txd3 d4 9.Kc2 Sf6 10.Tf3 Se4 11.Kd3 Ke5 12.Tf8 Sd6 13.Kc2 c4 14.Th8 Se4 15.Th3 Kf4

gruss charly

By Kurt Utzinger Date 2009-08-09 13:31

[quote="Anton Stadlhofer"]
Hallo

Der Zug Txd3! ist auch für heutige Schachengines auf aktueller Hardware nicht so leicht zu finden!

[Event "Txd3"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1993.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Manella, N."]
[Black "_"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. Rxd3!! e4+ 2. Kb1 exd3 3. Nf7 d4 4. Kb2 d2 5. Kc2 1-0

lg Anton
[/quote]

Hallo Anton
Wirklich für die meisten Engines eine harte Nuss.
Die grosse Ausnahme ist Fritz10 ... sensationell.
Mfg
Kurt

Neue Partie
6nN/2p5/P1k2b2/2Bpp3/8/3bR3/8/K7 w - - 0 1

Engine:

Analysis by Fritz 10:

1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.a7 Kb7 4.Sg6 Lg5 5.Se5 d2 6.Kc2 Sf6 7.Ld4 Se4 8.Sc6 Lf4 
  -/+  (-1.14)   Tiefe: 9/25   00:00:00  134kN
  -/+  (-1.14)   Tiefe: 11/21   00:00:00  242kN
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Txd3 exd3 
  -/+  (-1.14)   Tiefe: 11/24   00:00:00  419kN
  =/+  (-0.70)   Tiefe: 14/29   00:00:02  2196kN
1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sf7 d4 4.Kb2 Se7 5.Sd8+ Kxc5 6.a7 Sd5 7.a8D Lxd8 8.Dxd8 c6 9.Da5+ Kd6 10.Kc1 Se3 11.Dd8+ Ke5 12.Kd2 c5 13.Dg5+ 
  =/+  (-0.70)   Tiefe: 14/29   00:00:03  3313kN
  +-  (2.81)   Tiefe: 24/56   00:51:49  3684mN, tb=15611

(, TOSHIBA 09.08.2009)

By Werner Jeschke Date 2009-08-09 14:11

Hallo,
auch Fritz 11 kann es, wenngleich auch nicht so schnell wie Fritz 10:
Neue Partie - Fritz 11
6nN/2p5/P1k2b2/2Bpp3/8/3bR3/8/K7 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 11:

1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Tg3 e3 5.Kb3 e2 6.Lb4
=/+ (-0.67)   Tiefe: 9/18   00:00:00 54kN
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 Sh6 4.Kb3 Sf5 5.Th3 e3 6.Th7
=/+ (-0.62)   Tiefe: 10/23   00:00:00 120kN
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 Sh6 4.Kb3 Sf5 5.Te1 e3 6.Sf4 Lc4+
=/+ (-0.56)   Tiefe: 11/22   00:00:00 256kN
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 e3 5.Sf4 Le4 6.Kb3 Le5 7.Tf1
=/+ (-0.46)   Tiefe: 12/23   00:00:00 641kN, tb=3
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 e3 5.Sf4 Le4 6.Kb3 Le5 7.Ta1 Ka8
=/+ (-0.40)   Tiefe: 13/26   00:00:00 1243kN, tb=4
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 e3 5.Sf4 Le4 6.Kb3 Se7 7.Kc4 Sc6 8.Tg1
=/+ (-0.34)   Tiefe: 14/26   00:00:01 2527kN, tb=59
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 e3 5.Sf4 Le4 6.Kb3 Le5 7.Tf1 Sf6 8.Kc4 Lxf4
= (-0.17)   Tiefe: 15/28   00:00:04 5637kN, tb=252
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 e3 5.Sf4 Le4 6.Kb3 Se7 7.Kc4 Sc6 8.Ta1 Ka8 9.Sd3
=/+ (-0.31)   Tiefe: 16/29   00:00:11 11149kN, tb=1009
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 Sh6 4.Th3 Lc4+ 5.Ka3 Sf7 6.Th7 d4 7.Kb4 Ld5 8.Le7 Sg5 9.Lxf6 Sxh7 10.Lxd4
= (-0.01)   Tiefe: 17/32   00:00:35 32843kN, tb=3731
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 Sh6 4.Th3 Lc4+ 5.Ka3 Sf7 6.Th7 d4 7.Kb4 La2 8.Sf4 Le5 9.Th2 Le6 10.Sxe6 Lxh2
= (0.04)   Tiefe: 18/34   00:01:29 64523kN, tb=11603
1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 Sh6 4.Th3 Lc4+ 5.Ka3 Sf7 6.Th7 d4 7.Th1 Sd6 8.Kb4 Le2 9.Lxd6 cxd6
= (-0.02)   Tiefe: 19/34   00:03:21 119mN, tb=33186
1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sf7 d4 4.Kb2 Sh6 5.Sxh6 d2 6.Kc2 d1T 7.Kxd1 Lg5 8.a7 Kb7 9.Sf7 Lf6 10.Kd2 Ka8 11.Kd3
+- (2.56)   Tiefe: 19/38   00:07:32 203mN, tb=89498
1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sf7 d4 4.Kb2 Sh6 5.Sxh6 Lg7 6.Sf7 d2 7.Kc2 d1D+ 8.Kxd1 Lf6 9.Sh6 d3 10.Sf7 d2 11.a7 Kb7 12.Kxd2 Ka8 13.Kd3 c6
+- (3.91)   Tiefe: 20/37   00:13:22 321mN, tb=172183
1.Txd3 e4+ 2.Kb1 exd3 3.Sf7 d4 4.Kb2 Sh6 5.Sxh6 Lg7 6.Sf7 d2 7.Kc2 d1D+ 8.Kxd1 Lf6 9.Kc2 d3+ 10.Kxd3 Lg7 11.Le3 Lf6
+- (4.46)   Tiefe: 21/43   00:23:59 537mN, tb=297989

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Werner

By Joachim Krzyzanowski Date 2009-08-09 14:17

Hallo Kurt,

probiere es mit Fritz 6, denn der schafft es sogar ohne EGTB`s!

Grüße

Joachim

By Kurt Utzinger Date 2009-08-09 15:04

Hallo Anton
Keine Chance für LoopMP 12.32, nach 1 Std 39 Min abgebrochen.
Gruss
Kurt

6nN/2p5/P1k2b2/2Bpp3/8/3bR3/8/K7 w - -

Engine:

Engine: LoopMP 12.32 (32 MB)
von Fritz Reul

14.01  0:05   -0.18    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 d4 4.Th7 Lc4+ 
                       5.Ka3 Ld5 6.Sg6 e3 7.Sf4 Le4 8.Se6 Le7 (9.160.695) 1782 

15.01  0:08   +0.03    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 d4 4.Th7 Lc4+ 
                       5.Ka3 Ld5 6.Sg6 d3 7.Le3 d2 8.Lxd2 Kxa7 (14.897.890) 1782 

16.01  0:14   +0.24    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 Lc4+ 4.Ka3 Le7 
                       5.Lxe7 Sxe7 6.Th7 Sf5 7.Txc7+ Ka8 
                       8.Sf7 e3 (26.775.410) 1792 

17.01  0:19   +0.24    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 Lc4+ 4.Ka3 Le7 
                       5.Lxe7 Sxe7 6.Th7 Sf5 7.Txc7+ Ka8 
                       8.Sf7 e3 (34.848.693) 1810 

18.01  0:29   +0.18    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 Lc4+ 4.Ka3 Le7 
                       5.Lxe7 Sxe7 6.Th7 Sf5 7.Txc7+ Ka8 
                       8.Sf7 e3 (54.572.179) 1823 

19.01  1:05   +0.18    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Th3 Lc4+ 4.Ka3 Le7 
                       5.Lxe7 Sxe7 6.Th7 Sf5 7.Txc7+ Ka8 
                       8.Sf7 e3 (117.748.239) 1805 

20.01  4:09   +0.20    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 Ka8 
                       5.Kb3 e3 6.Sf4 Lf5 7.Kc4 Le5 8.Sd5 Sf6 (444.025.350) 1776 

21.01  6:28   +0.26    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 Ka8 
                       5.Kb3 e3 6.Sf4 Lf5 7.Kc4 c6 8.Lxd4 Lxd4 (696.584.516) 1792 

22.01  10:11  +0.26    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 Ka8 
                       5.Kb3 e3 6.Sf4 Lf5 7.Kc4 c6 8.Lxd4 Lxd4 (1.102.252.678) 1802 

23.01  19:49  +0.26    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 Ka8 
                       5.Kb3 e3 6.Sf4 Lf5 7.Kc4 c6 8.Lxd4 Lxd4 (2.154.814.179) 1812 

24.01  38:19  +0.26    1.a7 e4+ 2.Ka2 Kb7 3.Sg6 d4 4.Te1 Ka8 
                       5.Kb3 e3 6.Sf4 Lf5 7.Kc4 c6 8.Lxd4 Lxd4 (4.173.805.862) 1814

By Austaller Gerhard Date 2009-08-09 19:07

Hallo

Zappa Mexiko II auf einem etwas älteren Laptop sofort Txd3, wenn auch noch nicht mit richtiger Bewertung...

FEN: 6nN/2p5/P1k2b2/2Bpp3/8/3bR3/8/K7 w - - 0 1

Zappa Mexico II:
10/35 00:03    189.625 418.598 -1,15 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Td3d4 Lf6xh8 Ka1b2 Sg8e7 Kb2c2 Lh8xd4 Lc5xd4
10/35 00:03    279.951 436.741 -1,15 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Td3d4 Lf6xh8 Ka1b2 Sg8e7 Kb2c2 Lh8xd4 Lc5xd4
11/36 00:05    999.069 466.637 -1,08 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Kc1d2
11/36 00:05    1.090.868 462.232 -1,08 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Kc1d2
12/40 00:06    1.793.099 488.317 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3
12/40 00:07    1.899.487 486.300 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3
13/40 00:09    3.137.068 494.494 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
13/40 00:10    3.500.236 491.261 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
14/44 00:13    5.139.928 508.400 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
14/44 00:14    5.833.864 507.955 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
15/49 00:20    9.241.561 520.651 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
15/49 00:23 10.821.312 519.556 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
16/49 00:27 12.835.308 518.913 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
16/49 00:34 15.990.645 510.427 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
17/49 00:47 22.769.140 515.104 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
17/49 01:00 29.626.575 518.346 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4
18/52 01:27 44.306.452 526.574 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4 Sd5f4+
18/52 01:54 58.682.733 526.449 +0,01 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1c1 Sg8e7 a6a7 Kc6b7 Sf7d8+ Kb7a8 Sd8e6 Se7d5 Kc1d2 Ka8b7 Kd2xd3 Kb7a8 Se6xd4 Lf6xd4 Lc5xd4 Sd5f4+
19/57 10:10   353.763.297 582.700 +3,31 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1b2 Sg8e7 Sf7d8+ Kc6xc5 a6a7 Se7d5 a7a8D Lf6xd8 Da8xd8 Kc5c4 Dd8e8 d3d2 De8e2+ Kc4c5 De2xd2 Sd5e3 Dd2a5+ Kc5d6 Da5a8
19/57 10:41   368.168.858 576.432 +3,31 Te3xd3 e5e4+ Ka1b1 e4xd3 Sh8f7 d5d4 Kb1b2 Sg8e7 Sf7d8+ Kc6xc5 a6a7 Se7d5 a7a8D Lf6xd8 Da8xd8 Kc5c4 Dd8e8 d3d2 De8e2+ Kc4c5 De2xd2 Sd5e3 Dd2a5+ Kc5d6 Da5a8