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- - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-20 21:45


Spike 1.4:

18  01:13   94.876k  1.285k  +34,49  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 h7-h8D h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e3 Sh4-g2+ Ke3-d4 Dh8xf6 Ta3xa6+ Ka8-b7 Ta6-a3 Df6xb6+ Kd4-c3 Db6xb5 Ta3-b3 f7-f8D Kc3-b2 Sf4-d3+ Kb2-b1 Df8-c8 Tb3-a3 Dc8-c1+ Kb1-a2 Dc1xa3+ Ka2xa3
18  01:17   99.171k  1.284k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1
18  01:17   99.322k  1.284k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1
19  01:17   99.606k  1.283k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-

Berserk-8.5.1:

43/99  1:53:09   4.912.914k  724k  +M16  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 f7-f8D f6xe5 Ka8-b7 Kh1-g1 a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Df8-h8 Tf3xf4 Da8-g8 Tf4xf5 Dh8-h2+ Kf2-e3 Dh2-g3+ Ke3-e4 Dg3-g2+ Tf5-f3 Dg8-g4+ Ke4-e3 Dg4xf3+ Ke3-d4 Dg2-d2+ Kd4-c4 Df3-c3+
44/99+  1:55:26   5.021.814k  725k  +M12  Ka8-b8
44/99  1:55:30   5.025.795k  725k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
45/99  1:55:33   5.028.334k  725k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
46/99  1:55:36   5.030.870k  725k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+

Berserk-10:

40/79  1:49:14   4.727.991k  721k  +M18  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Lf4-g5 Df8-g7 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dh8xh3+ Kg2xh3 Sf3xh2 Kh3-g3 e5xf6 Kg3-f4 Ka8-b7 Lg5-h4 Dg7-g4+ Kf4-e3 Dg4xh4 Ke3-d3 Kb7xb6 Kd3-c2 Kb6xb5 Kc2-d3 a7-a8D Kd3-c2 Da8-g2+ Kc2-c3 Dh4-h3+ Kc3-d4 Dg2-b2+ Kd4-d5 Dh3-f3+ Kd5-d6 Df3-c6+
41/79-  1:49:21   4.732.558k  721k  +M23  h7-h8D Ta3xh3
41/79-  1:49:22   4.733.257k  721k  +M28  h7-h8D Ta3xh3
41/83-  1:50:10   4.767.943k  721k  +M375  h7-h8D Ta3xh3
41/83+  1:50:25   4.778.507k  721k  +M361  h7-h8D
41/86+  1:54:14   4.941.977k  721k  +M21  h7-h8D
41/86  2:01:14   5.253.792k  722k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dg7xg3+ Lf4xg3 Dh2xg3+ Kf3xg3 e5xf6 Kg3-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f1 Ka8-b8 Kf1-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Da8-f3+ Kd3-c2 Df8-g8 Kc2-b1 Df3-d1+ Kb1-b2 Dg8-b3+
42/86  2:01:21   5.259.066k  722k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dg7xg3+ Lf4xg3 Dh2xg3+ Kf3xg3 e5xf6 Kg3-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f1 Ka8-b8 Kf1-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Da8-f3+ Kd3-c2 Df8-g8 Kc2-b1 Dg8-g2 Kb1-c1 Df3-f1+
43/86  2:01:46   5.277.039k  722k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dg7xg3+ Lf4xg3 Dh2xg3+ Kf3xg3 e5xf6 Kg3-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f1 Ka8-b8 Kf1-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Da8-f3+ Kd3-c2 Df8-g8 Kc2-b1 Df3-b3+ Kb1-c1 Dg8-g5+
44/86  2:02:39   5.315.053k  722k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dg7xg3+ Lf4xg3 Dh2xg3+ Kf3xg3 e5xf6 Kg3-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f1 Ka8-b8 Kf1-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Da8-f3+ Kd3-c2 Df8-g8 Kc2-b1 Df3-b3+ Kb1-c1 Dg8-g5+
45/86  2:03:16   5.342.062k  722k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dg7xg3+ Lf4xg3 Dh2xg3+ Kf3xg3 e5xf6 Kg3-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f1 Ka8-b8 Kf1-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Da8-f3+ Kd3-c2 Df8-g8 Kc2-b1 Dg8-g2 Kb1-a1 Df3-f1+
46/86  2:04:31   5.396.533k  722k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dg7xg3+ Lf4xg3 Dh2xg3+ Kf3xg3 e5xf6 Kg3-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f1 Ka8-b8 Kf1-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Da8-f3+ Kd3-c2 Df8-g8 Kc2-b1 Dg8-g2 Kb1-a1 Df3-f1+
47/86  2:15:09   5.870.531k  724k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2xg3+ Lf4xg3 e5xf6 Lg3-f2 Ka8-b7 Kf3-e3 a7-a8D Ke3-d3 Da8-h8 Kd3-e3 Dg7-g2 Ke3-d3 Dg2xf2 Kd3-c3 Dh8-g8 Kc3xb4 Dg8-a2 Kb4-c3 Df2-d2+
48/86  2:18:25   6.013.875k  724k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2xg3+ Lf4xg3 e5xf6 Lg3-e1 Ka8-b7 Kf3-e2 a7-a8D Ke2-d3 Kb7xb6 Kd3-c3 Kb6xb5 Kc3-c2 Da8-e4+ Kc2-b2 De4xe1 Kb2-b3 Dg7-g2 Kb3-a3 De1-e3+
49/86  2:34:11   6.714.492k  726k  +M14  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2xg3+ Lf4xg3 Ka8-b7 Lg3-f4 e5xf6 Kf3-e2 Dg7-g4+ Ke2-d2 Dg4xf4+ Kd2-c2 a7-a8D Kc2-b2 Df4-d2+ Kb2-b1 Kb7xb6 Kb1-a1 Da8-h1+
50/86  2:40:42   7.010.631k  727k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
51/86  2:40:58   7.023.828k  727k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+

Berserk-11:

40/43  1:22:04   3.079.821k  625k  +M22  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f1 Sf3xh2+ Kf1-e2 Dg7xf6 Tg3-c3 Df6-d8 Tc3-d3 Dd8xd3+ Ke2xd3 Ka8-b7 Kd3-c3 Dh8-h3+ Kc3-b2 Dh3-g2+ Kb2-c3 Dg2-f3+ Kc3xb4 Df3xf4+ Kb4-b3 a7-a8D b5-b4 Kb7xb6 Kb3-c2 Df4xb4 Kc2-d1 Kb6-b5 Kd1-e2 Da8-h1 Ke2-d3 Dh1-f3+ Kd3-c2
41/40+  1:22:27   3.092.461k  625k  +M17  f7-f8D
41/40  1:28:22   3.302.687k  623k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-g1 f7-f8D Kg1-f2 Df8-h6 Kf2-e3 Dh6-h1 Ke3-d2 Da8-d5+ Kd2-c3 Dh1-c1+ Kc3xb4 Dc1-b2+ Kb4-a5 Dd5xb5+
42/26  1:33:40   3.494.795k  622k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-g1 f7-f8D Kg1-f2 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Dh6-h3 e5-e4 Da8-d5 Kf2-e1 Dh3-e3+ Ke1-f1 Dd5-d1+ Kf1-g2 Dd1-g1+
43/26  1:38:41   3.680.546k  622k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
44/26  1:41:55   3.799.979k  621k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
45/26  1:48:41   4.048.881k  621k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
46/26  1:56:45   4.347.452k  621k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
47/26  2:06:47   4.718.333k  620k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
48/26  2:20:19   5.230.783k  621k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
49/26  2:34:08   5.752.974k  622k  +M13  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Ta3xf3 h7-h8D h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf4 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 f7-f8D Kh2-g3 Df8-h6 f6xe5 Da8-h1 Kg3-f2 Dh6-h3 Kf2-e2 Dh3-c3 Tf4-f1 Dc3-c2+ Ke2-e1 Dh1-e4+
50/26  2:44:59   6.161.258k  622k  +M12  Sh3xf4 Kh1-g1 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Ta3xa6+ Ka8-b7 Ta6-a1 f7-f8D Ta1-d1 Df8-g7+ Kg1-f2 h7-h8D Td1-g1 Dg7xg1+ Kf2xg1 Dh8-h5 f6xe5 Dh5-f3 e5xf4 Df3-g2+
Parent - - By Andreas Matthies Date 2023-02-21 06:43 Upvotes 3
Wir haben es verstanden. Spike findet ein Matt schneller als Berserk. Wie viele Threads und Posts willst du dafür noch aufmachen?
Parent - - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-21 10:04
Ich verstehe deine Antwort nicht. 

1.) Wer ist "Wir"?

2.) Das Spike die gezeigten Matts schneller findet war nicht das Thema. 
      Es lautet: Geht das noch besser? Mit anderen Engines, vielleicht?

3.) Die engines waren noch in der Arena GUI geladen. Was soll's?

Was mich hier stutzig macht ist die Tatsache das man meilenweit am Matt vorbeiläuft und das dann noch in irrsinniger Tiefe findet. Was ist der Grund dafür?
Parent - - By Benno Hartwig Date 2023-02-21 20:39

> Was mich hier stutzig macht ist die Tatsache das man meilenweit am Matt vorbeiläuft und das dann noch in irrsinniger Tiefe findet. Was ist der Grund dafür?


Annodunnemals (also in den 80ern)  musste meist nur die nominelle Tiefe erreicht werden, und dann wurde das Matt auch gefunden.
Heute braucht es ggf. "meilenweit" tiefere Suchen.

Erklärt habe ich mir das so:

Damals wurde im Wesentlichen elementares alpha-beta-gemacht.
Es wurde nur vergleichsweise selten spekulativ beschnitten. Und damit blieb der Verzweigungsgrad groß (Größenordnung: Wurzel aus mittlerer Zügeanzahl in der Stellung).
Ergebnis: die Matts wurden recht sicher gefunden, das Programm gewann aber nur schwer an Tiefe.
Nach meiner Erinnerung brauchte im Mittelspiel ein Ply mehr dann auch ungefähr die fünf- bis sechsfache Zeit.

Heute erlaubt man sich deutlich mehr Cuts, auch wenn sie spekulativ sind, auch weil man zuverlässiger abschätzen kan, was der Cut bedeutet.
So werden Matts zunächst auch gern mal übersehen, die Engine kommt deutlich mehr auf Tiefe, und im Ergebnis steigt sie Spielstärke trotzdem, und das auch deutlich.
Um einen Ply tiefer zu kommen braucht es heute nur die doppelte Zeit, ggf. auch weniger.

Habe ich mir das damit ungefähr passend zurechtgereimt?
Parent - - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-22 10:04
Zitat:
Annodunnemals (also in den 80ern)  musste meist nur die nominelle Tiefe erreicht werden, und dann wurde das Matt auch gefunden.
Heute braucht es ggf. "meilenweit" tiefere Suchen


Da sehe ich aber zum Colossus2021a einen kleinen Widerspruch :-> , denn der war von 2021. Also noch recht neu.

Zum Anderen, wenn in der Tiefe von 100 ein Matt in 30 gefunden wird, wieso rechnet er in der Tiefe noch tiefer?

Da ist also ein eindeutiger logischer Fehler in diesen Programmen die so rechnen.

Wenn es tatsächlich ein unabwendbares Matt in 30 ist, dann braucht man doch nur noch bis zum Matt in 29 usw. rechnen?

Stimmt das so?

Glaube schon.
Parent - By Benno Hartwig Date 2023-02-24 06:07 Edited 2023-02-24 06:11
Ich weiß nicht, wie modern Colossus in seiner Konzeption ist, auch 2021 damals war.
Immerhin begann Bryant mit seiner Colossus-Entwicklung bereits in den 80ern und er machte dann sehr, sehr lange eine schöpferische Pause.
Wenn seine "Neuentwicklung" dann vielleicht ja auch doch auf dem Alten aufbaut...?

Das Verhalten der Engines nach einem bereits gefundenen Matt ist auch in meinen Augen schon oft seltsam, wenn da in noch größeren Tiefen weitergesucht wird um da doch eigentlich nur ein kürzeres Matt zu finden
.
Erklärt hatte ich es mir dann damit, dass die Programme wohl darauf getunt sind, möglichst erfolgreich im praktischen Spiel zu sein.
Sich dann in besonders geschickter Weise weiterzusuchen, wenn ein Matt (ein sicherer Sieg also) gesehen wird, liegt wohl oft überhaupt nicht im Fokus der Entwickler.
Und wer weiß: Vielleicht wirkt eine logisch saubere Implementierung für solche Fälle auch kontraproduktiv auf das praktische Spiel, beispielsweise weil das Programm dadurch generell irgendwie gebremst wird, also etwas weniger Knoten pro Sekunde schafft.
Parent - - By Andreas Matthies Date 2023-02-24 06:46 Upvotes 3
Ich denke, LMR (late move reduction) hat hier den größten Einfluss.
Ich habe in meiner Engine einen "Search debug" Modus, der für eine vorgegebene Linie protokolliert, wie sie gespielt und warum sie verworfen wurde. Hier ein wahllos aus einem alten Log herausgegriffener Debug Schnippsel:
Code:
    14.331 > position fen r1n2N1k/2n2K1p/3pp3/5Pp1/b5R1/8/1PPP4/8 w - - 0 1
    18.596 > debug pv f8g6 h7g6 g4g2 a4e8 f7f8 a8a4 b2b4 a4b4 c2c4 b4c4 d2d4 c4d4 g2h2 d4h4
...
   111.851 < [SDEBUG] =======================================================================
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]   Window       Move   MoveVal   Num Dep  Score          Reason        
   111.851 < [SDEBUG] -----------------------------------------------------------------------
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]   -959/  -943  f8g6      171d    6  32   -959            not best move  PVS(alpha=-959/depth=27);score=-959...
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]    958/   959  h7g6  14002000    1  27    959                  betacut  PVS(alpha=958/depth=27);score=959...score=959  Alpha=958 at this point.
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]   -959/  -958  g4g2  ffffc8fd   21  27   -959              below alpha  PVS(alpha=-959/depth=16);score=-959...score=-959  Alpha=-959 at this point.
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]    958/   959  a4e8  38000000    1  16    959                  betacut  PVS(alpha=958/depth=15);score=959...score=959  Alpha=958 at this point.
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]   -959/  -958  f7f8      192d    2  15   -959              below alpha  PVS(alpha=-959/depth=13);score=-959...score=-959  Alpha=-959 at this point.
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]    958/   959  a8a4  38000000    1  13    959                  betacut  PVS(alpha=958/depth=13);score=959...score=959  Alpha=958 at this point.
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]   -959/  -958  b2b4  ffffed7c    7  13  -1059              below alpha  PVS(alpha=-959/depth=8);score=-1059...score=-1059  Alpha=-959 at this point.
   111.851 < [SDEBUG]    958/   959  a4b4         0    0   8   1059           probcut-pruned  pruned by a4b4
   111.851 < [SDEBUG] =======================================================================
   112.221 < info depth 32 seldepth 41 multipv 1 time 91939 score cp -951 lowerbound nodes 125835983 nps 1368686 tbhits 0 hashfull 549 pv f8e6

Position und analysierte Linie ergeben sich aus den ersten beiden Zeilen. Der Schnipsel zeigt die Suche bei Tiefe 32.
Interessant sind jetzt die Spalten Num und Dep.
Num gibt an, wie "late" der "move" ist. f8g6 wurde also erst als 6. Zug der in dieser Position möglichen Züge gespielt. Und deshalb wird auch schon ganz schön stark reduziert, es geht von Tiefe 32 direkt auf Tiefe 27 (und nicht auf Tiefe 31, wie es ohne LMR zu erwarten wäre). Und dann zwei Züge tiefer nach direkt auf Tiefe 16, weil der fragliche Zug g4g2 erst der 21. in der Liste der möglichen Züge war.
Die Linie wird also bereits nach 8 Zügen nur noch mit Tiefe 8 gespielt und dort dann schließlich verworfen wird.
Also... wo Tiefe 32 drauf steht, ist nur sehr sehr selten Tiefe 32 drin.

Gruß, Andreas
Parent - By Jörg Oster Date 2023-02-24 09:59
So ist es.
Und erschwerend kommt dann noch hinzu, dass die Lösungszüge nicht unbedingt unter den ersten sind, die untersucht werden.
Und je später der Zug, desto weniger Suchtiefe.
Parent - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-21 10:15


The Huntsman 1 ssse3:
classical evaluation enabled

25/30  00:14   12.169k  847k  +92,12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Da2-a1+ Kf1-e2 Db6xb5+ Ke2-e3 Da1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Ke3-f4 Db5-c4+ Kf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Kg5xg6 Sf3xd2
26/32  00:18   15.819k  871k  +92,99  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Da2-b1+ Kf1-e2 Db6xb5+ Ke2-f2 Db1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-c7+ Kc6xc7 Kf2-g3 Db5-d3+ Ld2-e3 Dd3xe3+ Kg3-g4 a7-a8D
27/36  00:20   18.278k  881k  +M20  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Da2-b1+ Kf1-e2 Db6xb5+ Ke2-f2 Db1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Ld2-e1 Dh1xe1+ Kg3-f4 De1-d2+ Kf4-g3 Db5-d3+ Kg3xh4
28/36  00:22   20.061k  886k  +M17  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Db6xb5+ Kf1-g1 Da2-b1+ Kg1-f2 Db1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Kg3-g4 Db5-e2+ Kg4-f4 De2-e4+ Kf4-g3 Dh1-g2+
29/34  00:25   22.509k  893k  +M17  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Db6xb5+ Kf1-e1 Da2-b1+ Ke1-f2 Db1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Kg3-g4 Db5-e2+ Kg4-f4 De2-e4+ Kf4-g3 Dh1-g2+
30/34  00:27   24.283k  895k  +M17  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Db6xb5+ Kf1-e1 Da2-b1+ Ke1-f2 Db1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Kg3-g4 Db5-e2+ Kg4-f4 De2-e4+ Kf4-g3 Dh1-g2+
31/34  00:30   27.317k  898k  +M17  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Db6xb5+ Kf1-e1 Da2-b1+ Ke1-f2 Db1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Kg3-g4 Db5-e2+ Kg4-f4 De2-e4+ Kf4-g3 Dh1-g2+
32/34  00:33   29.985k  897k  +M16  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xb6+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Db6xb5+ Kf1-e1 Da2-a1+ Ke1-f2 Da1xh1 Tg3-g8+ Kb8-b7 Tg8-g7+ Kb7-c6 Tg7-g6+ f5xg6 Kf2-g3 Dh1-g2+ Kg3xh4 Db5-e2 Ld2-e3 De2-g4+
33/32  00:41   36.973k  902k  +M13  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g3 Dg8-d5 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Dd5xf3+ Kh1-g1 Ka8-b7 f6xe5 a7-a8D e5-e4 Df3xg3+ Kg1-f1 Kb7xb6 Kf1-e2 Da8xe4+ Ke2-d2 Dg3-e1+
34/26  00:43   39.277k  899k  +M13  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g3 Dg8-d5 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Dd5xf3+ Kh1-g1 Ka8-b7 f6xe5 a7-a8D e5-e4 Df3xg3+ Kg1-f1 Kb7xb6 Kf1-e2 Da8xe4+ Ke2-d2 Dg3-e1+
35/26  00:47   42.380k  894k  +M13  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g3 Dg8-d5 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Dd5xf3+ Kh1-g1 Ka8-b7 f6xe5 a7-a8D e5-e4 Df3xg3+ Kg1-f1 Kb7xb6 Kf1-e2 Da8xe4+ Ke2-d2 Dg3-e1+
36/26  00:50   45.132k  890k  +M13  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g3 Dg8-d5 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Dd5xf3+ Kh1-g1 Ka8-b7 f6xe5 a7-a8D e5-e4 Df3xg3+ Kg1-f1 Kb7xb6 Kf1-e2 Da8xe4+ Ke2-d2 Dg3-e1+
37/26  01:01   54.422k  879k  +M13  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g3 Dg8-d5 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Dd5xf3+ Kh1-g1 Ka8-b7 f6xe5 a7-a8D e5-e4 Df3xg3+ Kg1-f1 Kb7xb6 Kf1-e2 Da8xe4+ Ke2-d2 Dg3-e1+
38/26  01:10   61.622k  874k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
39/24  01:15   66.115k  870k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
40/24  01:22   71.876k  866k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
41/24  01:29   77.302k  861k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
42/24  01:36   83.047k  857k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
43/24  01:46   90.680k  853k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
44/24  02:08   109.249k  851k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
45/24  02:18   116.986k  846k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
46/24  02:37   132.332k  841k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
47/24  02:51   143.181k  836k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
48/24  03:17   164.346k  833k  +M12  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Dg8-d5 Tf3-d3 Dd5xd3 h2-h1D+ Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 Ka8-b8 f6xe5 a7-a8D+ Kh1-h2 Dd3-e2+ Kh2-g3 Da8-f3+ Kg3-h4 De2-h2+
49/24  03:43   185.566k  829k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
50/20  03:48   188.890k  828k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
51/20  03:52   191.916k  827k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
52/20  03:52   192.521k  827k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+

Ein Matt wurde schnell gefunden      , bis zur Lösung hat es aber noch viel Zeit gekostet.
Parent - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-21 11:11


RubiChess-20221203_x86-64-sse3-popcnt:

31/70  02:15   129.793k  958k  +M20  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Dh8-h5 Kh1-g1 Dh5-d1+ Kg1-f2 Ka8-b7 Tg3-d3 Dd1-h1 Lf4-e3 Dh1-g2+ Kf2-e1 Sh4-f3+ Ke1-d1 Dg2-f1+ Kd1-c2 Sf3-e1+ Kc2-b2 Se1xd3+ Kb2-c3 a7-a8D f6xe5 Da8-c8+ Le3-c5 Df8-h6 h2-h1D+ Df1xh1 Kc3-d4 Dc8-d8+ Lc5-d6 Dh6xd6+ Kd4-c3 Dd8-c8+ Kc3-b3 Dc8-g8+ Kb3-c2 Dh1-c1+
32/32+  02:19   133.706k  960k  +M16  f7-f8D
32/32  02:27   141.487k  962k  +M16  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Dh8-h5 Kh1-g1 Dh5-d1+ Kg1-f2 Ka8-b7 Lf4-e3 a7-a8D Tg3-h3 Dd1-c2+ Kf2-e1 Sh4-g2+ Ke1-f1 Dc2-d1+ Kf1xg2 Df8-g8+ Kg2-f2 Dg8-a2+ Kf2-g3 Da8-g8+ Le3-g5 Dd1-e1+ Kg3-f4 Da2-f2+ Kf4-g4 De1-e2+ Th3-f3 De2xf3+
33/33+  02:43   158.544k  968k  +M12  f7-f8D
33/33  03:01   175.285k  966k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dh1-e4+ Ke2-f1 De4xf4+ Kf1-e1 Df4xg3+ Ke1-d1 Dg8-b3+ Kd1-d2 Dg3-e3+
34/34  03:06   179.716k  962k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f1 Dg8-a2 Tg3-g8+ Da2xg8 Kf1-e2 Dg8-g2+ Ke2-d3 Dh8-d8+ Kd3-c3 Dd8-d4+ Kc3-b3 Dg2-b2+ Kb3-a4 Dd4-d1+
35/35  03:10   182.761k  958k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dh1-e4+ Ke2-f1 De4xf4+ Kf1-e1 Df4xg3+ Ke1-e2 Dg8-a2+ Ke2-f1 Da2-f2+
36/44  03:26   195.473k  946k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dh8xh2+ Kg2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dh1-e4+ Ke2-f1 De4xf4+ Tg3-f3 Df4xf3+ Kf1-e1 Dg8-g1+ Ke1-d2 Dg1-d1+
37/37  03:37   203.694k  935k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dh8xh2+ Kg2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dh1-e4+ Ke2-f1 De4xf4+ Kf1-e1 Df4xg3+ Ke1-f1 Dg8-b3 f6xe5 Db3-d3+
38/44  03:59   220.972k  923k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dh8xh2+ Kg2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dh1-e4+ Ke2-d1 Dg8-a2 Tg3-g8+ Da2xg8 Kd1-c1 Dg8-b3 Lf4-e3 De4xe3+
39/39  05:10   277.863k  896k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dh8xh2+ Kg2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dh1-e4+ Ke2-d1 Dg8-a2 Tg3-g8+ Da2xg8 Kd1-c1 Dg8-b3 f6xe5 De4-c2+
40/54  06:58   369.186k  882k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dg8-d5 Tg3-g8+ Dd5xg8 Lf4-e3 Dg8-d5 Le3-d4 Dd5-f3+ Ke2-d2 Dh1-d1+
41/44  08:15   429.448k  867k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Th3-g3 Df8-g8 Kh1-g1 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-f2 Dh8xh2+ Kf2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dg8-d5 Tg3-g8+ Dd5xg8 Lf4-e3 Dg8-d5 Le3-d4 Dd5-f3+ Ke2-d2 Dh1-d1+
42/60  23:55   1.211.505k  844k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dh8xh2+ Kg2xf3 Dh2-h1+ Kf3-e2 Dg8-d5 Tg3-g8+ Dd5xg8 Lf4-e3 Dg8-d5 Le3-d4 Dd5-f3+ Ke2-d2 Dh1-d1+
43/56  29:23   1.477.867k  838k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 a7-a8D Kh1-g2 Dg8-b3 Kg2-f2 Da8xf3+ Kf2-g1 Db3-d1+ Kg1-h2 Dd1-h1+

Ob es noch etwas wird mit der korrekten Lösung?
Parent - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-21 11:23


Stockfish15.1:

NNUE evaluation using nn-ad9b42354671.nnue enabled

33/42  02:06   115.210k  912k  +M35  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Kb8-b7 Tg4-g1 Dg8-a2+ Kf2-f3 Da2-d5+ Kf3-f2 Dg7-h8 Tg1-g2 Dd5-d4+ Lg5-e3 Dd4-b2+ Kf2-g1 Db2-b1+ Kg1-f2 Dh8-h4+ Tg2-g3 Db1-c2+ Kf2-f1 Dc2-d3+ Kf1-f2 f6-f7
34/38  03:04   155.291k  840k  +M35  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Kb8-b7 Tg4-g1 Dg8-a2+ Kf2-f3 Da2-d5+ Kf3-f2 Dg7-h8 Tg1-g2 Dd5-d4+ Lg5-e3 Dd4-b2+ Kf2-g1 Db2-b1+ Kg1-f2 Dh8-h4+ Tg2-g3 Db1-c2+ Kf2-f1 Dc2-d3+ Kf1-f2 f6-f7 Kf2-f3
35/44  03:26   172.732k  835k  +M20  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg7xg5 Tg4xg5 Dg8xg5 Kf2-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-f2 Dg5-d2+ Kf2-g3 Dd2-e3+ Kg3-h4 De3-e1+ Kh4-g4 De1-d1+ Kg4-f4 f7-f8D Kf4-e3 Df8-h6+ Ke3-e4 Dd1-e2+ Ke4-d5 De2-e6+ Kd5-d4 Dh6-d2+
36/47  03:47   188.253k  828k  +M18  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1L a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg7xg5 Tg4xg5 Dg8xg5 Kf2-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 Dg5-g2+ Ke2-d3 Dg2-f3+ Kd3-d2 f7-f8D Kd2-c2 Df8-c8+ Kc2-b2 Df3-g2+ Kb2-b1 Dg2-c2+ Kb1-a1 Dc8-c3+
37/42  04:01   197.709k  820k  +M17  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1L a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg7xg5 Tg4xg5 Dg8xg5 Kf2-f3 f6-f7 Kf3-e2 f7-f8D Ke2-f3 Dg5-h5+ Kf3-e3 Df8-h6+ Ke3-d4 Dh6-d2+ Kd4-e5 Dh5-f7 Ke5-e4 Df7-d5+
38/34  04:16   208.508k  812k  +M17  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1L a7-a8D Lh1xa8 Kb8xa8 Kg1-f2 e5xf6 Th3xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg8-a2+ Kf2-g3 f6-f7 Lg5-e3 Dg7-e5+ Kg3-f3 Da2-d5+ Kf3-f2 De5-b2+ Kf2-e1 Dd5-h1+ Tg4-g1 Dh1-f3 Tg1-g8+ f7xg8D Le3-f4 Dg8-g1+
39/34  04:34   220.954k  804k  +M16  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg7xg5 Tg4xg5 Dg8xg5 Kf2-f3 a6-a7 Kf3-e4 a7-a8D+ Ke4-e5 f6-f7 Ke5-d4 Dg5-d2+ Kd4-e5 Da8-d5+ Ke5-f6 f7-f8D+
40/32  04:45   226.309k  793k  +M16  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Kg1-f2 Da8xh1 Th3xh1 e5xf6 Th1xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg7xg5 Tg4xg5 Dg8xg5 Kf2-e2 f6-f7 Ke2-e1 Dg5-e3+ Ke1-d1 f7-f8D Kd1-c2 Df8-c8+ Kc2-b1 De3-b3+ Kb1-a1 Dc8-c1+
41/34  05:04   238.194k  781k  +M16  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kg1-f2 e5xf6 Th3xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg8-a2+ Kf2-g3 f6-f7 Lg5-e3 Dg7-e5+ Kg3-f3 Da2-d5+ Kf3-f2 De5-h2+ Kf2-e1 Dd5-f3 Tg4-g8+ f7xg8D Le3-f2 Dh2xf2+
42/32  05:14   243.568k  774k  +M16  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kg1-f2 e5xf6 Th3xh4 Dh8-g8 Th4-g4 Dg8-a2+ Kf2-g3 f6-f7 Lg5-e3 Dg7-e5+ Kg3-f3 Da2-d5+ Kf3-f2 De5-h2+ Kf2-e1 Dd5-f3 Tg4-g8+ f7xg8D Le3-f2 Dh2xf2+
43/32  05:58   272.021k  759k  +M13  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Kg1-g2 Dg8-a2+ Kg2-g3 Dh8xh3+ Kg3xh3 Da2xh2+ Kh3-g4 Sf3xg5 Kg4xg5 Ka8-b8 Kg5xf5 a7-a8D Kf5-e6 Da8-c6+ Ke6-f7 Dh2-h7+ Kf7-f8 Dc6-c8+
44/26  06:07   277.390k  754k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Ka8-b8 Tf3xf5 a7-a8D f6xe5 Dg8-a2 Lg5-d2 Da2xd2 Tf5-f8+ Dh8xf8 e5-e4 Dd2-e1+ Kg1-g2 Df8-f1+
...
55/22  07:44   317.683k  684k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Sh4-f3+ Th3xf3 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D Dh8xh1+ Kg1xh1 a7-a8D Kh1-g2 Dg8-b3 Kg2-f1 Da8xf3+ Kf1-g1 Db3-d1+ Kg1-h2 Dd1-h1+
56/22  08:11   329.468k  671k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
57/20  08:17   331.693k  667k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
58/20  08:24   334.665k  663k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
59/20  08:33   338.223k  659k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
60/20  08:40   340.754k  655k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
61/20  08:40   341.005k  655k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
Parent - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-21 20:12


Ethereal-14.00:

29/76+  04:43   292.122k  1.030k  +194,44  h7-h8D
29/66  04:50   301.072k  1.037k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
30/60  04:51   302.746k  1.038k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
31/60  04:52   303.685k  1.038k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
32/62  04:53   304.671k  1.039k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
33/61  04:54   306.480k  1.039k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
34/64  04:55   307.693k  1.040k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
35/64  04:56   308.633k  1.040k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
36/66  04:58   311.340k  1.041k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
37/64  05:00   313.441k  1.042k  +M15  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kf2-e2 Ka8-b7 Ke2-d3 a6-a7 Kd3-d4 a7-a8D Kd4-c3 Da8-a2 Kc3xb4 Kb7xb6 Kb4-c3 Dg5-d2+
38/66  05:14   332.230k  1.057k  +M14  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 Dg5-d2+ Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Dh1-f1 Dd2-g5+ Kg3-h3 Da8-g2+ Df1xg2 Sh4xg2 Kh3-h2 Sg2-f4 Kh2-h1 Dg5-g2+
39/68  05:21   342.005k  1.062k  +M14  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Lf4-g5 Dh8xf6 h2-h1D+ Ka8-b8 Th3-g3 Df6xg5 Tg3xg5 Dg8xg5+ Kg1-f2 Dg5-d2+ Kf2-g3 a7-a8D Dh1-f1 Dd2-g5+ Kg3-h3 Da8-g2+ Df1xg2 Sh4xg2 Kh3-h2 Sg2-f4 Kh2-h1 Dg5-g2+
40/62  05:33   357.087k  1.070k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
41/48  05:34   357.909k  1.070k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
Parent - By Chess Player Date 2023-02-22 12:12
Jetzt einmal mit Windows XP 32 bit:



Stockfish 14.1:

46/64  1:00:13   3.728.784k  1.032k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
...
61/20  1:01:07   3.778.993k  1.031k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+

Critter 1.6a 32-bit:


19/54  15:01   1.302.922k  1.446k  +M24  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 f7-f8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g7+ Lf4-g5 Ka8-b8 h2-h1D a7-a8D Dh1xa8+ Kb8xa8 Kg1-f2 Dh8-e8 Th3-e3 De8xb5 Lg5xh4 e5xf6 Te3-g3 a6-a7 Kf2-g1 Db5xb6+ Kg1-g2 Ka8-b7 Kg2-h3 a7-a8D Lh4-g5 Dg7-h8+ Lg5-h4 f6-f7 Tg3-b3 f7-f8D Kh3-g4 Dh8-g8+ Lh4-g5 Dg8xb3 Lg5-f4 Db3-c3 Lf4-g3 Db6-d4+ Kg4-h3 Df8-h6+ Kh3-g2 Kb7-a6+ Kg2-f1 Da8-f3+ Lg3-f2 Dd4xf2+
19/54  15:06   1.310.420k  1.446k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1
...
34/54  52:18   5.335.784k  1.700k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1

Yace 0.99.87:

11  00:04   9.327k  1.992k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+

       
...
20/34  1:01:07   780.418k  213k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
interior recognizer probes 46, found 0 egtb probes 11, found 11 max_depth 34

Colossus 2008b:


15/47  04:43   458.558k  1.619k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1
...
20/50  20:39   1.763.892k  1.423k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+ Ke8-f8 Lc7-d6+ Kf8-g8 Te3-g3+ Kg8-h8 Tg3xh3 a7-a8D+ Th3-f3 Da8xf3+ Kh1-g1 Df3-g2+
- By Benno Hartwig Date 2023-02-21 20:51 Edited 2023-02-21 21:00
Was sagt der gute alte (und ggf. doch auch noch simpler gestrickte) Colossus auf meinem i5-1035G4:

FEN: K7/P4P1P/Pp3p2/1p2PP2/1P3b1N/r6N/7p/7k w - - 0 1

Colossus2021a:
4      00:00   333        333k  +15,13  h7-h8D f6xe5 f7-f8D Ta3xh3
5/10+  00:00   405        405k  +15,89  h7-h8D
16/43+ 00:00   851k     1.939k  +22,43  h7-h8D
16/43  00:00   947k     1.948k  +22,68  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 Dh8-d8 Kh1-g1 Dd8-d4+ Th3-e3 Dd4-d1+ Kg1-f2 ...
17/44  00:00   1.233k   1.920k  +22,98  h7-h8D Ta3xh3 Dh8-d8 Kh1-g1 Dd8-d4+ Th3-e3 Dd4-d1+ Kg1-f2 ...
17/44+ 00:03   6.726k   1.896k  +23,18  Ka8-b8
17/53+ 00:09   19.534k  1.994k  +34,18  Ka8-b8
17/53  00:10   21.321k  1.966k  +M10    Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+...


...und bleibt dabei.

PS:
Auf diesem Rechner braucht Stockfish immerhin zum Finden dieses +M10 mit Ka8-b8

Stockfish_22112320_x64_bmi2:
56/22  01:28    92.370k  1.044k  +M11  f7-f8D Ta3xh3 h7-h8D Kh1-g1 Df8-g8+ Th3-g3 Sh4-f3+...
57/22  01:47   103.314k    960k  +M10  Ka8-b8 Lf4xe5+ Kb8-c8 Ta3-c3+ Kc8-d8 Le5-c7+ Kd8-e8 Tc3-e3+...
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