Harte Nuß!!

By Peter Martan Date 2012-03-14 20:01

Hallo Anton!

r1b1k2r/ppqpbp1p/2p1n1p1/8/5P2/2NB3Q/PPPB2PP/R3R1K1 w kq - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42:

1.f5 gxf5 2.Dxf5 Db6+ 3.Df2 Dxb2 4.Tf1
= (-0.04)   Tiefe: 6/10   00:00:00 11kN
...
1.g4 Db6+ 2.Kh1 Dxb2 3.f5 gxf5 4.gxf5 Sc5 5.f6 Sxd3 6.Txe7+ Kd8
+/= (0.48 !)   Tiefe: 30/56   00:03:52 3070mN
1.g4 d5 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sc5 4.Txe7+ Dxe7 5.Te1 Se6 6.fxe6 Lxe6 7.Lf5 Tg8+ 8.Kh1 0-0-0 9.Lxe6+ fxe6 10.Txe6 Dd7 11.Sa4 d4 12.Sc5
+/= (0.56 !)   Tiefe: 30/56   00:04:00 3183mN
1.g4 d6 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sc5 4.Dh5 Sxd3 5.cxd3 Tg8+ 6.Kh1
+/= (0.68 !)   Tiefe: 30/56   00:04:14 3388mN
...
1.g4 d6 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sc5 4.Dh5 Db6 5.Kh1 Dxb2 6.Lg5
+/- (1.14 !)   Tiefe: 30/56   00:05:06 4142mN
...
1.g4 0-0 2.f5 d5 3.fxe6 fxe6 4.Lh6 Db6+ 5.Kg2 Df2+ 6.Kh1 Tf3 7.Dg2 Tf7 8.Dxf2 Txf2 9.Kg1 Tf7 10.h3 Ld7 11.Kg2 Lh4 12.Tf1 e5 13.Txf7 Kxf7 14.a4 Le7 15.Tf1+ Ke6 16.Le2 b6 17.La6 Lc8 18.Ld3 Ld7 19.Le2 Tb8 20.Kg3 Td8 21.Le3
+/- (1.29)   Tiefe: 32/67   00:09:39 8096mN

By Peter Martan Date 2012-03-14 20:13 Edited 2012-03-14 20:19

r1b1k2r/ppqpbp1p/2p1n1p1/8/5P2/2NB3Q/PPPB2PP/R3R1K1 w kq - 0 1

Analysis by Houdini 2.0c Pro x64L:

1.f5 gxf5 2.Dxf5 d5 3.Df2 Db6 4.Le3 Dxb2
= (-0.01)   Tiefe: 6/15   00:00:00 9kN
...
1.f5 gxf5
= (0.14 --)   Tiefe: 20/47   00:00:09 162mN
1.g4
+/= (0.27 !)   Tiefe: 20/47   00:00:16 298mN
1.g4
+/= (0.41 !)   Tiefe: 20/51   00:00:20 379mN
1.g4
+/- (0.74 !)   Tiefe: 20/64   00:00:42 837mN
1.g4 d5 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sg7 4.Df3 f6 5.Sxd5 cxd5 6.Dxd5 Lxf5 7.La5 Td8 8.Dxf5 Sxf5 9.Lxc7 Td5 10.Kh1 Sd6 11.Lxd6 Txd6 12.Te2 Tg8 13.Lxh7 Tg7 14.Ld3 Kf7 15.Tae1 Ld8 16.Te8 Tg4
+/= (0.69)   Tiefe: 20/64   00:00:45 888mN
1.g4 d5 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sc5 4.Dg4 Tf8 5.Lh6 Dd6 6.Lxf8 Kxf8 7.Te3 Df6 8.Tg3 Dh8 9.Dh5 h6 10.Te1 Df6 11.Dg4 Dg5 12.De2 Df6 13.Kg2 Sxd3 14.cxd3 Lxf5 15.De3
+/- (0.75)   Tiefe: 21/64   00:01:07 1361mN
1.g4 d5 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sg7 4.Df3 f6 5.Sxd5 cxd5 6.Dxd5 Lxf5 7.La5 Td8 8.Dxf5 Sxf5 9.Lxc7 Td5 10.Kh1 Sd6 11.Lxd6 Txd6 12.Te2 Tg8 13.Lxh7 Tg7 14.Ld3 Kf8 15.Tae1 Td4 16.Te6 Th4 17.Le4 Ld8 18.Td6
+/= (0.67)   Tiefe: 22/64   00:01:24 1716mN
1.g4 d5 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Sg7 4.Df3 f6 5.Sxd5 cxd5 6.Dxd5 Lxf5 7.La5 Td8 8.Dxf5 Sxf5 9.Lxc7 Td5 10.Kh1 Sd6 11.Lxd6 Txd6 12.Te2 Tg8 13.Lxh7 Tg7 14.Ld3 Kf8 15.Tae1 Td4 16.Te6 Th4 17.Le4 Ld8 18.Td6
+/= (0.67)   Tiefe: 23/64   00:01:48 2242mN
1.g4
+/- (0.77 !)   Tiefe: 24/64   00:03:38 4637mN
1.g4 d5 2.f5 h5 3.fxe6 Lxe6 4.Txe6 fxe6 5.Lxg6+ Kd7 6.g5 Taf8 7.Te1 Dd6 8.Kh1 Thg8 9.Lh7 Txg5 10.Lxg5 Lxg5 11.Dxh5 Le7 12.Ld3 Tf4 13.Lg6 Kc7 14.De5 Dxe5 15.Txe5 Kd6 16.Te1 e5 17.Se2 Tf6 18.Tg1 Tf2
+/- (0.85)   Tiefe: 24/67   00:06:22 8228mN

By Thomas Müller Date 2012-03-14 20:13

Hallo,

leider keine HV sondern nur g4....aber mehr war ja nicht gefragt

Analysis by Vitruvius_1.0C_HEM_x64:

1.f4-f5 g6xf5 2.Dh3xf5 d7-d5 3.Te1-f1 Se6-g5 4.Df5-f2 Th8-g8 5.Kg1-h1 Lc8-e6 6.Ld2-e3 Le7-b4 7.Ta1-e1 Lb4xc3 8.b2xc3 Sg5-e4 9.Ld3xe4 d5xe4 10.Le3-f4 Dc7-a5 11.Df2-h4 Da5-f5 12.Lf4-d6 Df5-g5 13.Dh4xe4 0-0-0 14.Ld6-g3 Td8-d2 15.De4xh7 Le6xa2 16.Tf1-f5
= (0.08 ++)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00 13kN
= (0.24)   Tiefe: 24   00:02:10 987mN
1.g2-g4
+/= (0.32 ++)   Tiefe: 25   00:07:13 3539mN
+/= (0.70 ++)   Tiefe: 25   00:12:59 6454mN

(, 14.03.2012)

By Peter Martan Date 2012-03-14 20:31

Hallo Thomas!

Ivanhoe zeigt ein ähnliches Verhalten:
r1b1k2r/ppqpbp1p/2p1n1p1/8/5P2/2NB3Q/PPPB2PP/R3R1K1 w kq - 0 1

Analysis by Ivanhoe 46hm x64:

1.f5 gxf5 2.Dxf5 Db6+ 3.Df2 Dxf2+ 4.Kxf2 0-0 5.Se4 d5
=/+ (-0.26)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00 9kN
...
1.f5 gxf5 2.Dxf5 d5 3.Tf1 Sg5 4.Df2 Tg8 5.Kh1 Le6 6.a4 h5 7.a5 h4 8.Lf4 Dd7 9.Dxh4 Se4 10.Dh5 Sxc3 11.bxc3 0-0-0 12.a6 b6 13.Le5 Tde8
+/= (0.26)   Tiefe: 24   00:01:24 1461mN
1.g4
+/= (0.34 !)   Tiefe: 25   00:04:27 5060mN
+/- (0.72 !)   Tiefe: 25   00:08:02 9207mN

Andererseits DF10 auf 4 Kernen auch:

Analysis by Deep Fritz 10:

1.Dh6 d5 2.Le3 Lf8 3.Dh4 Lg7
= (0.18)   Tiefe: 6/19   00:00:00 22kN
...
1.g4
= (-0.01)   Tiefe: 19/51   00:07:08 2663mN
+/= (0.43)   Tiefe: 20/46   00:13:16 4956mN

By Thomas Müller Date 2012-03-14 20:43

da hätte ich grad noch was "lustiges"

Analysis by Komodo64 SSE Version 4:

1.f4-f5
= (-0.02)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00 14kN
= (0.16)   Tiefe: 25   00:12:01 444mN

(, 14.03.2012)

also gaaaanz kurz und "falsch" dazu

hoppla...grad als ich senden drücke...

1.f4-f5 g6xf5 2.Dh3xf5 d7-d5 3.Te1-f1 Se6-g5 4.Df5-f2 Th8-g8 5.Kg1-h1 Lc8-e6 6.a2-a3 h7-h6 7.Ld2-f4 Dc7-b6 8.Lf4-e3 Db6xb2 9.Le3-d4 Le7-c5 10.Ld4xc5 Db2xc3 11.Lc5-d4 Dc3-a5 12.Ld4-f6 Ke8-d7 13.Ta1-e1 Kd7-c8 14.Df2-g3 Tg8-e8 15.c2-c4 d5xc4 16.Ld3xc4 Da5-c7 17.Dg3-d3 Kc8-b8 18.Lf6-e5
= (-0.02)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00 14kN
= (0.19)   Tiefe: 25   00:14:32 539mN

By Thomas Müller Date 2012-03-14 21:02

und dann noch einer der "brüder"...

Analysis by RobboLito 0.10 SMP x64:

1.f4-f5 g6xf5 2.Dh3xf5 d7-d5 3.Te1-f1 Se6-g5 4.Df5-f2 Th8-g8 5.Kg1-h1 Lc8-e6 6.Ld2-e3 Le7-b4 7.Df2-h4 Lb4-e7 8.Dh4-d4 h7-h5 9.Ld3-e2 h5-h4 10.Dd4xh4 Sg5-e4 11.Dh4-h7 0-0-0 12.Sc3xe4 d5xe4 13.Dh7xe4 Kc8-b8 14.De4-a4 b7-b5 15.Da4-f4 Dc7xf4 16.Le3xf4+ Kb8-b7
= (-0.01 ++)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:00 15kN
= (0.14)   Tiefe: 25   00:04:40 2275mN
1.g2-g4
+/= (0.33 ++)   Tiefe: 25   00:11:39 5904mN
+/= (0.45 ++)   Tiefe: 25   00:13:41 6940mN

By Peter Martan Date 2012-03-14 21:56

[quote="Thomas Müller"]
und dann noch einer der "brüder"...

[/quote]

Und ein alter großer Bruder

r1b1k2r/ppqpbp1p/2p1n1p1/8/5P2/2NB3Q/PPPB2PP/R3R1K1 w kq - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64:

1.f5 gxf5 2.Dxf5 d5 3.Tab1 Ld7 4.a3 Ld6 5.g3 0-0-0
= (0.11)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00 25kN
...
1.g4 0-0 2.f5 Sg5 3.Dh6 Sf3+ 4.Kg2 Sxe1+ 5.Txe1 Lf6 6.fxg6 hxg6 7.Lxg6 fxg6 8.Dxg6+
+/= (0.27 !)   Tiefe: 17   00:00:53 39144kN
1.g4 0-0 2.f5[] Sg5 3.Dh6
+/= (0.42 !)   Tiefe: 17   00:01:04 45627kN
1.g4 0-0 2.f5[] Sg5 3.Dh6[] Sf3+ 4.Kg2 Se5 5.Txe5 Dxe5 6.Te1[] Dd4 7.Txe7[] Dxg4+ 8.Kf2[] d6 9.h3 Dd4+ 10.Le3 Df6 11.Lg5 Dd4+ 12.Kg2
+/- (0.82 !)   Tiefe: 17   00:02:30 101mN

By Thomas Müller Date 2012-03-14 23:47

bei mir....

Analysis by Deep Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64:

1.f4-f5 g6xf5 2.Dh3xf5 d7-d5 3.Te1-f1 Se6-g5 4.Df5-f2 Th8-g8 5.Kg1-h1 Lc8-e6 6.Ld2-e3 Sg5-e4 7.Sc3xe4 d5xe4 8.Ld3xe4 Dc7-e5 9.Df2-f4 De5xf4 10.Tf1xf4 Le7-g5 11.Tf4-f3 Lg5xe3 12.Tf3xe3 Tg8-g7 13.Ta1-d1 Ta8-d8 14.Le4-d3 Ke8-e7 15.b2-b3 h7-h6 16.Kh1-g1
= (0.23 ++)   Tiefe: 7   00:00:06 38kN
= (0.17)   Tiefe: 17   00:01:07 24373kN
1.g2-g4 d7-d5 2.f4-f5[] 0-0 3.f5xe6 f7xe6 4.Kg1-g2 e6-e5 5.Ld2-h6 Tf8-e8 6.Sc3-e4 Dc7-d7 7.Se4-d2 Le7-d6 8.Ld3-e2 e5-e4 9.Te1-f1 Dd7-c7 10.Lh6-e3 Lc8-e6 11.Dh3-h4 Te8-f8
+/= (0.36 ++)   Tiefe: 17   00:01:58 40757kN
+/- (0.89)   Tiefe: 23   01:21:52 1520mN

By Günter Müller Date 2012-03-14 22:11

Nach 1.g4 gibt es eine Zugfolgevertauschung

best move g4
r1b1k2r/ppqpbp1p/2p1n1p1/8/5PP1/2NB3Q/PPPB3P/R3R1K1 b kq g3 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 12:

1. +/- (1.36): 1...d5 2.f5 0-0 3.fxe6 Bxe6 4.Qg2 Qb6+ 5.Kh1 Rfe8 6.g5 Bd6 7.Qf3 a5 8.Rab1 Qd4 9.Be3 Qh4 10.Qf2 Qg4 11.Qf6
2. +/- (1.36): 1...0-0 2.f5 d5 3.fxe6 Bxe6 4.Qg2 Qb6+ 5.Kh1 Rfe8 6.g5 Bd6 7.Qf3 a5 8.Rab1 Qd4 9.Be3 Qh4 10.Qf2 Qg4 11.Qf6
3. +- (1.54): 1...b6 2.f5 gxf5 3.gxf5 Bb7 4.fxe6 dxe6 5.Qg3 Bd6 6.Qg5 h6 7.Qf6 Rg8+ 8.Kf1 h5 9.Bh6 Bc8 10.h4 Bc5
4. +- (1.92): 1...Kd8 2.f5 Nf4 3.Qh6 Nxd3 4.Rxe7 Qb6+ 5.Re3 Ne5 6.Kg2 d6 7.Qh4+ Kd7 8.Rd1 Qd8 9.Qg3 Re8 10.Ne4 Nc4 11.fxg6 hxg6

(Müller, 14.03.2012)